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Drifty
14-01-08, 08:29 PM
G'day fella's..

A couple of my inserts have come loose. When pulling an arrow out of my target, they tips are being left in. While this isn't a great problem as recovery is easy. I would prefer them to stay in the shaft.

What glue do you use ? Just loctite, or something specific for the job ?

Cheers
:)

woodstoka
14-01-08, 08:58 PM
mate i just use afew drops of super glue and twist the insert as i put it in to spread the glue you have to be quick or u will end up with only half the insert in the arra as it tends to stick very quick

hope this helps jesse

Drifty
14-01-08, 09:43 PM
Thanks..

Going down the range tomorrow night. Don't want them to come out in the targets. lol

:)

cutthroat
14-01-08, 10:16 PM
Drifty use areldite 2 pack on inserts and leave them for two to three days.Like woodstoka said if you use 401 or some other super glue you had better be quick or it will set in about three or four seconds.

Drifty
14-01-08, 10:23 PM
Cheers cutthroat.

Sounds like a better option, considering I'll surely screw one up. lol

:)

Friar Tuck
14-01-08, 11:48 PM
If you go the superglue option try and get loctite gel - it gives a few seconds more before setting as opposed the the runny stuff.

Drifty
15-01-08, 05:53 AM
Thanks.

It looks as though the glue from the original insert never really took. Is there a way to roughen up the inside for hte glue to stick better, without damaging the arrow ?

NormGunston
15-01-08, 07:48 AM
For more info, please do a search on this topic- there has been a ton of stuff written in addition to the above.

XTfreak
15-01-08, 08:31 AM
Thanks.

It looks as though the glue from the original insert never really took. Is there a way to roughen up the inside for hte glue to stick better, without damaging the arrow ?
With carbons we wash the insides out with dish soap and hot water and let them set a day before gluing in the inserts. Alternativley if you had a bore brush that fit inside your arrows (yes the ones used to clean rifles) and old cleaning rod they work well too.

For more info, please do a search on this topic- there has been a ton of stuff written in addition to the above.
And you call me a Grumpy old Bastard?:o
Bill

Wareagle
15-01-08, 10:18 AM
Maybe the inserts were put in with hot melt, put a flame on the insert that came out, to see if the glue melts.

huntercheng
15-01-08, 11:10 AM
Thanks.

It looks as though the glue from the original insert never really took. Is there a way to roughen up the inside for hte glue to stick better, without damaging the arrow ?

I use loctite control gel and that seems to work really well as others have said. However I have found that most of these glues don't take if there is carbon dust from the cutting or manufactur of the shaft.

I use a Baby wipe screwed up like you are cleaning your ear with a tissue and that cleans up all the carbon dust and any remanent oil in the insert section of the shaft. Alternativly a cotton bud dipped into some water has also worked for me.

Thanks for reading:P

jindydiver
15-01-08, 11:54 AM
I run a round file around the inside of the shaft to make a rough surface (pretty gently) and then wash it out with a bore brush. Then I use 24 hour araldite and let it set for a couple of days.
I have used the super glue type products before and found that if the arrow hits something hard the glue cracks and the insert becomes loose, has anybody else had this problem (maybe no-one else misses the butt, or rabbit, as much as me :) )

Friar Tuck
15-01-08, 12:21 PM
I run a round file around the inside of the shaft to make a rough surface (pretty gently) and then wash it out with a bore brush. Then I use 24 hour araldite and let it set for a couple of days.
I have used the super glue type products before and found that if the arrow hits something hard the glue cracks and the insert becomes loose, has anybody else had this problem (maybe no-one else misses the butt, or rabbit, as much as me :) )

Super glue is a brittle substance dry by nature and I use personally 2 Tonne Epoxy for inserts and target points.

I too have had the super glue let go in targets.

Warlocke
15-01-08, 12:29 PM
I use Hot melt and have done so for about four years with no problems.

When someone wants their inserts glued in on a more permanent basis, I use 24 hour Epoxy.

After cutting the shaft, I wrap some 600 grit sandpaper around a small shaft Phillips head screwdriver and roughen up the inside of the shaft, then clean up any Carbon dust with some cotton buds dipped in Thinners or Metho and allow to dry before glueing.

Puk
15-01-08, 05:02 PM
Like Warlocke i use some fine sandpaper and then clean up the dust with a cotton-bud, usually dipped in acetone. I then use Selley's shock-proof superglue. It sets as fast and strong as the others, but is slightly flexible by nature and so doesn't crack under pressure.
$6 at the local supermarket.

Puk

brendan e
15-01-08, 08:08 PM
drifty,i clean the inside of the shaft with acetone with acotton bud and clean the insert as well then use super strength arildite

Grunter
15-01-08, 08:39 PM
As a few of the other have said here, i also use 1000 grit wet & dry sandpaper to roughen up the inside & use a bore cleaner then i use some of the auto painters prepsol or if the wifes not watching some of here nail polish remover to get them real supr clean on the inside. I also use 2 part Epoxy & leave it sit for a few days. I then use a tap to go through the insert to give it the finall clean on the threads. As i am sure some here have had troubles at times getting heads to screw back into them due to glue build up in the threads. I have used this same method for over many years & have not lost an insert as yet, touch wood.