View Full Version : Whisker Bisket Vs Drop away Rest
mr_kris
18-01-08, 08:31 PM
So what's everybody's thoughts about this topic, cause i've figured that the whisket bisket is good for securing the arrow in place but slows it down, and the opposite for the drop away rests...so i'm with the drop away cause the whisker breeds lazyness i think...what do you think?
Antarcher
18-01-08, 08:41 PM
For me the whisker biscuit means maintenance. Change discs when they wear out and change fletching on your arrows. Once I set up my drop away, I haven't touched it for a over a couple of years now. It is nothing to have a finger on the arrow when you have to manouvre with an arrow on the string. I have done it so many times it is not funny and never missed a chance at shooting due to an arrow falling off at an inoppurtune time. I also note that most of the target guys all shoot drop away, as it the most consistent way to get the best arrow flight every time. Says something about gaining accuracy.
yowieman
18-01-08, 09:07 PM
the whisker is brilliant once set up rite the ultimate lazymans tool slap it in and done you dont have to worry bout it coming of because your shaking like a fat kid in a chocolate factory. Its still very accurate and i dont think it would take of any speed (maybe 2 or 3 fps) but just for its lazyness i love it i can still shoot a can at 40 meters no probs with the whisker so this hole thing about it ruining your accuracy is poo any way i recking its gota be 1 of the best hunting rests available, altho it seem alot of people either love it or hate it
cheers
yowieman
Used a WB for a while and thought they were a good hunting rest, arrow cannot fall off, accurate and reasonably quiet whilst drawing etc. I dont like the vane/blazer contact between blazers and rest bristles and they need replacing when large numbers of arrows are shot thru them. Just purchased a containment drop away, interesting to see how it performs. My wifes bow has a drop away and it works a treat. Personal thing really, but if I had to choose I would go the drop away for the none blazer/vane contact.
aussie.rum.pig
18-01-08, 10:06 PM
i have ysed a whisker bisket befor and did not like them so i went to a trophy taker shakey hunter and have never looked back
NormGunston
18-01-08, 10:23 PM
Open that bloody can of worms! Full containment vs drop-away- they each have their loyal devotees... try both. For me, the Muzzy Zero Effect drop away was noticeably more accurate than the WB. Want your arrow to stay in place as securely as the WB? Use an arrow gripper with your drop-away (about $3.00).
Wareagle
18-01-08, 10:27 PM
I have Trophy Taker drop aways on most of my bows, for the last 3-4yrs. now, never had one let me down yet. ;)
iamore.
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Checkout Review at Huntersfriend.com. They have a technical review on a new Rival to the Whisker biscuit called catawa still shot. Review worth reading.
I was thinking of getting awhisker biscuit( as alot of the Hunter club members have changed to a whisker biscuit for hunting), but I am still pretty happy with the Drop away I use.Another thing with the whisker biscuit to deminish Fletch wear I would have to change my fleches to a stiffer type. I have in fact taken a step in that direction of changing my Fletches to 1.5" Blazers(evidently they work ok in the Whisker Biscuit).
I am still honing my archery skills on 3D Targets . Been out hunting a few times and held arrow in place as indicated by antarcher,but If I did change I would look at Catawba stillshot, but would wait abit for further Reviews from whom ever.
iamore
XTfreak
19-01-08, 08:14 AM
Why would anyone bring this up again???
This post usually just ends in a $hit fight.
Do a search and you will see all the arguments for and against the W/B (And there are many)...
Bill
Wareagle
19-01-08, 09:43 AM
There is only so many subject, in archery and bowhunting. if every member or new member just looked up what was said in the past, there would be very few posting, and besides people opinion change and there's always new gear being brought on the market.
I mean if it's a subject you're not interested in, don't click on it. :)
Warlocke
19-01-08, 09:54 AM
I have tried a containment rest and think their OK but the drop-away is for me.
Never had one fail on me and very accurate.
Being a bit of an accessory junkie, I have tried about six different drop-aways and never had a problem, on targets or in the bush, with any of them.
http://www.vitalgear.net/fallaway-arrow-rests.php
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/peterm/KAZAWAY.gif
I use a Kazaway rest, holds your arrow in place while still having all of the accuracy of the drop away rest, have used in all conditions and terrain in Aus and works brilliantly!
Matty H
19-01-08, 12:56 PM
Peter
Do you know if the Kazaway rest is available locally or can you direct me to a overseas website where they are available ?
Matt
Rock Steady
19-01-08, 01:59 PM
If I was setting my bow up for mainly target and had to choose between a DA and a WB I would choose the DA. But as I mostly only hunt with my bow I choose the WB for its simple and reliable nature. A mate of mine who hunts a lot more then me was using a DA and when he came to draw on a Dingo he had howled in, the string for his rest snapped and all he could do was smile at the Dingo at 10 yards, never had the same experience with a WB. He believes he damaged it on some blackberries so its was nearly cut through.
I have used the WB for the last 2-3 years and other then flight damage before I went to Blazers I have had no problems with it.
As for the speed difference the reports show a 3fps decrease in speed from the WB compared to a DA, I can live with that.
WB accuracy, my son keeps robin hooding his arrows or cutting the flights with tight groups, we now aim at different dots on the target for each shot so we don't damage our arrows, set the WB up correctly and they work fine.
At the end of the day use the equipment that gives you the most confidence to hit the dot every time.:)
I recently bought a Hostage from Gecko to try out, as its raining this weekend I will set it up for a test next weekend.
XTfreak
19-01-08, 04:27 PM
There is only so many subject, in archery and bowhunting. if every member or new member just looked up what was said in the past, there would be very few posting, and besides people opinion change and there's always new gear being brought on the market.
I mean if it's a subject you're not interested in, don't click on it. :)
Fair enough.
Your point has been taken sir...
Bill
I use a whisker Biscuit, it was very simple to set up, and its great for the terrian i hunt, it might not be the best according to some people but it does a great job for me.
Antarcher
23-01-08, 10:57 AM
The one thing that does concern me on the Whisker biscuit is the fact the you have to change discs every so often. This tells me that that they wear out and in this case when do you know that it is affecting your shooting and when to change it? Does you nocking point change? Does it have less resistance and you arrow comes out differently? Will the wear points always be consistent for each and every one of your arrows? When will my fletching possibly tear off or wear enough to affect flight? These questions, and the number of them, are the reasons why I will stick with my drop away. Any one of these factors can come into effect when lining up an animal.
But I can not argue with the containment side of it being advantageous and the fact that quite a few blokes regularly take some fine animals when using them.
woodstoka
23-01-08, 04:15 PM
my opinion on the wb is its awsome
you set it up and its so easy to tune and once its set up theres nothing that can go rong no moving parts if found that the discs wear out if you shoot every day with 4 inch vanes but i went to blazers and havnt hadd the problem with the last 2 discs a disc lasts about 6months to a year depending how mutch u shoot
i shoot my bow nilly every day and would of put thousandss of shots through my current disc and its stil going strong when they start to wear out thw bristles start to go weak mainly either sides of the black base erea but not to worry 20 dollars later and your set for another year..and as far as hunting goes with it and accuracy i currently shooting long range shots out to 60m and can group the size od a cd on a still day so im happy with that and when in the bush drop the arrow in and away you go can walk all day just holding the bow and the arrows satys put
thats just my opinion
jesse
Rock Steady
23-01-08, 06:56 PM
[quote=Antarcher;107389]The one thing that does concern me on the Whisker biscuit is the fact the you have to change discs every so often. quote]
My son and I have been using the WB for about three years, we have never changed the disk on either rest. Maybe we do not shoot as much as other people? We do buy about 100 arrows a year so you lot must put a lot of arrows through your rests to wear them out.:) Maybe its a tuning issuehttp://www.aussiebowhunter.com/images/icons/icon5.gif
XTfreak
23-01-08, 07:06 PM
[quote=Antarcher;107389]The one thing that does concern me on the Whisker biscuit is the fact the you have to change discs every so often. quote]
My son and I have been using the WB for about three years, we have never changed the disk on either rest. Maybe we do not shoot as much as other people? We do buy about 100 arrows a year so you lot must put a lot of arrows through your rests to wear them out.:) Maybe its a tuning issuehttp://www.aussiebowhunter.com/images/icons/icon5.gif
Ive got about 3 years on my W/B and havent lost a fletch or had to replace the biscuit.
Bill
NormGunston
23-01-08, 09:07 PM
It's hard to resist this discussion, ay! I know for sure that many excellent trophies and top scores have been shot using Bikkies. Now if they are so accurate and convinient for bowhunters, why are they not as popular amongst other archers? Could it be that they are not as forgiving? Well, who cares- I'm not shooting 144 arrow 1300 FITAs- one shot will do nicely a bowhunter may reply. True enough. But I like a drop away as it, in my logic, must be more forgiving as I have much less shaft area in contact with the rest. With the Bikkie, should I, God forbid, execute a less than perfect shot, wouldn't that action be transferred or even amplified through the full containment rest? Forgiveness- it is the same reason I attend to the Confessional Bow Tuning Ceremony with such vigour and devotion. When there's a critter at stake I want my gear to perform the best that it can. Amen.
woodstoka
23-01-08, 09:11 PM
theres only four words to this discussion ............each to there own
the real
23-01-08, 09:46 PM
I like the whisker biscuit because it looks cool and when you push your pinkie finger in and out of the hole it gives me goose bumps, sometimes i get carried away and try a broom handle, but relise I dont have a big enough Nock for the end :(
However the up and down of my nap smart rest is mesmerizing, and sometimes when I go to bed, I wondering if they make 2 types of Drop Away
1) for the USA and 1) for Australia, Because we are upside down geographically would the USA rest pull down then up if we used it here or Vice Versa.
I might give this subject a miss and just shoot of the shelf, my head hurts now.
woodstoka
23-01-08, 10:26 PM
the real
hahahahahahahahaha lmao hahahahahaha you funny bugger
Whisker biscuits are fantastic rests. No doubt one of the best hunting rests ever invented. Check out the QAD fall away rests. They won't let the arrow fall of the rest either while stalking. Currently I am with the whisker biscuit, but very likely to change soon to the Qad fall away rests and have a crack on them.
Obviously from the testaments here the WB work exceptionly well. Its just that I go to alot of trouble to prevent fletch contact and this sort of rest it is part of the function. Perhaps I am too concerned with such things, as I am sure the most inacurate thing on my bow is the goose hanging onto it and not the accessories.
Has anyone tried the magnetic rests, absolutely no contact, looks like it could be awkward to use though, gimick?
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