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the real
09-04-08, 09:15 PM
What I have learnt in a year….

A year is short period of time, and I’ll tell you what I have learnt. Some people will read this and think blah blah blah, and others might read this and think somewhat in a different frame of mind.

No matter what you say or do other people are going to ridicule you. The only thing important to me is family, my son (14mths) and wife. I really don’t give a rat’s arse to what people think about me (negatively), as it has no bearing on my life nor son’s or wife.

It took a Junior Member to open my eyes so to speak.

Most Senior Members on this forum as have no doubt accomplished something great in their lives (whether it be bow hunting related or not), and I’m sure their children would look at them and say their dad is cool.

Myself have won a World Championships in shooting and have held the current Australian Olympic Trap record for under 21 for the past 11years at that point was unofficial world record for under 21, Being to World Cups around the world and heading back to Japan in July to shoot at a Pan Pacific Competition, but all this means nothing….only to the ones that mean something to you.

I bring this point up, because of late, all I see is whinging and fighting on this forum.
Expressions of interest / way of thinking (as I am writing here and now), great, however majority of the times it feels like people just want to S*&T Stir others.

I do believe a majority of the senior members rarely visit this site, because of this. (If I am wrong, I apologise.)

Personally, Post your opinions, but seriously think about what you type before you publish. Is it really worth a S*&T Fight. / Are you just here to Stir the pot………….
If so, Don’t Post

I’m guilty of this today, as frustration reached boiling point with me.

Let’s try making this sight as educational as it possible can.

Cheers,

rinaldo
09-04-08, 09:54 PM
I haven't been on this forum much lately as I have been busy preparing my son for the Aust. Junior Fita Nationals in Adelaide. Has it really been that bad?

Puk
09-04-08, 11:22 PM
If it has Rin, it's only because you haven't been on here!;)
Onward and upward fellas, for the promotion of bowhunting.

Puk

jason
10-04-08, 07:51 AM
Have to agree Derek, there is some stand out kids on here and then there are some real d!ck heads BUT the kids can say the same for the adults unfortunately..

sparra_gump
10-04-08, 08:31 AM
I did have a long time away from the site but even i notice a rise in fights/posts that are intended to be made in a smart ass way, also i have noticed many of the more senior members have been absent as i have pm'd a couple and has taken a long time to get a reply from some.

I was wondering if there was some sort of split or devide on the site but not wanting to say anything that might ignight an old fight i kept quite.

rory
10-04-08, 08:56 AM
I come on here to talk hunting, to see pics of game, to share in the experiences of other hunters.

I will say that there is a large amount of 'non animal shooting' apparent hunters on the forum, who I don't beleive pull much cred. from the hunter's on this site.

Puk
10-04-08, 09:10 AM
One or two stirrers or keyboard cowards do not constitute a divide. They usually soon get recognised for what they are, and have a habit of not lasting long on this site, due to the positive nature of the rest of our members. We just try not to let them take any of our valued members with them.

There is a lot of wisdom that comes from the experience of a lot of our members. It can be of great benefit to all of us if we listen and not shoot our mouth off.

That's kind-of how i see this site. It's like sitting around a big campfire listening to the stories of the elders as they pass on the lore of the hunt. As others earn respect through their words and actions, people start to listen to them, too. It is just sad when the anonymity of sitting at home in front of a keyboard makes people think they can get away with things that they would not say or do in person.

As i said guys and girls, let's remember that what we are doing is for the promotion of bowhunting.

Puk

nev
10-04-08, 01:35 PM
been thinking long and hard about this before i replied have to agree with a lot that's been said .Now my opinion is just that it doesnt matter if I'm 10 or 110 it should be respected not ridiculed if i say something that is historically or factually wrong please by all means straighten me out you don't have to be abusive about it .Rory you like to look at pic and read hunting stories that's fine , ever sat around a camp fire and listened, in ten minutes the conversation can change from bows to cars to fish to woman to arrows back to the pig you hit or missed that is the nature of the beast we call man and i like it that Way.I am guilty of being tongue in cheek and i will not apologize for it find people get on their high horse and a bit of levity is needed .As a retired soldier 20+ years of service, around the world a couple of times i seen things i wish i hadn't i believe life is to short to be serious cos when your gone your opinions don't mean jack .But that's just my opinion.

Arrowshooter
10-04-08, 01:47 PM
I will say that there is a large amount of 'non animal shooting' apparent hunters on the forum, who I don't beleive pull much cred. from the hunter's on this site.



Well said!

howie
10-04-08, 03:01 PM
Struth, I'm happy........

rudy
10-04-08, 03:17 PM
You cant keep everyone happy. I just read what i want to read, and ignore what i want to ignore.
If people want to stir the pot they are the one's who'll end up with only a few so called mates. The people who are genuine are the people who get my respect. Thats just my 2 cents worth, take it any way you want too.

Scott
10-04-08, 04:58 PM
Well fella's I must say I am very surprised with this topic! Over the past 4 to 5 months this site has been better than ever. There has been very few arguments compared to what it has been in the past. Yeh ya get a few comments from other hunters that someone does not agree with, so what! This is a great place to see how other Hunters are doing and their achievments with the Bow. You have only got to have a look at how many congrat posts there are when someone takes something, and it does not have to be a record breaking Buck, it can be a humble Rabbit. I see that as a real positive! Admin and Moderators have not had to Delete or edit very many post at all. Its a far cry to what we had to do I can tell ya! Again, I am very surprised that this topic has come up.:confused::confused:
Very funny this topic, by putting in the post about too many arguments it might just happen to create just that.......Another argument.:D:D Just joking here!!!!!!

We all know why this site was created, to promote Bowhunting and allow us all to pull together on the same level. The positive posts far out way the negatives so lets keep it rolling. TBGA seems to be doing just that, rolling along and running itself. And in my opinion in a very positive way! Cheers

acthunter
10-04-08, 06:53 PM
Not everyone will always agree on what has been said but that is just human nature and the world would be a pretty boring place if we all agreed with each other all the time.
In saying that I have found this site nothing but exellent and informative to say the least,I have learnt more on here in a few months than i could ever learn by myself.I have met some great people on here and im sure ill meet some more.

Cheers , Dave.

toto
10-04-08, 07:14 PM
Quite a funny thread really :P One person is ticked of that 1600 odd members dont all get along , maybe the Real should live in the real world , not everyone is going to have the same ideals :rolleyes: As has been said , it would be boring if we were all the same .

How else is someone to learn how to get animals under their belt , but to ask questions and learn ? Or is this site just for people that have the experience ? I doubt it .

Sparra
10-04-08, 07:18 PM
Quite a funny thread really :P One person is ticked of that 1600 odd members dont all get along , maybe the Real should live in the real world , not everyone is going to have the same ideals :rolleyes: As has been said , it would be boring if we were all the same .



:D:D:D:D

the real
10-04-08, 07:37 PM
Well said Toto, as the thread states, what i have learnt in a year............

Not since march as being a forum newbie.
Maybe you have been reading for some number of years but just have decided to join in the past month? Sure enough if this is the case, I respect your opinion, however if you have only just joined, you would have limited information to compare now and past years, unless you have a hell of alot of reading time.

I have no problems with the TGBA, Im just saying stop the B.S Rediculing where it is not needed.
Opinions, great! Stiring.......why?

Question of intrest, you have brought up an important point, of those 1600 members how many are frequent inputers to the site.

Does membership cease after so many months with input?

toto
10-04-08, 07:48 PM
I have been on this forum for many years and have seen what goes on , thats why , I know ,what I do .;)
Yes , I do have a lot of reading time , and seen who has come up through the "ranks"

As for the 1600 members , I'm sure , there are not that many contributers , but people who liosten and learn , then there are the people who think they have learned and want to become one of the experts .
As I said , not everyone is going to agree ;)
Its like life ,, you have to sort the **** from the chaff and deal with it . Use what you can and toss the rest , it soon becomes apparent who knows and who doesnt , if you hang around long enough ;)

I,m gunna leave now before I get banned .

the real
10-04-08, 07:55 PM
Why would you get banned?
It is exactly the response people want to read, including me, intelligent and civil.
Cheers Toto.

toto
10-04-08, 08:01 PM
Why would you get banned?
It is exactly the response people want to read, including me, intelligent and civil.
Cheers Toto.
Sometimes the truth hurts , and people dont want the truth , they want all things to be nice ,, unfortunately they aint .and when you tell the truth , people get upset . Just the way the world is these days . Like telling your wife , that skirt makes her arse look big :P They think they want the truth , but when it comes , they dont want it ;)
And I'm sure when that other hunter comes in after me bagging him , about the "non hunters" etc I will be gone .

nev
10-04-08, 08:03 PM
toto you just hit the nail right on the head

rossy
10-04-08, 08:05 PM
not to step on anyones toes . but i feel most on TBGA, know someone or know someone that knows that person ETC.So you know whats BS advise and whats not.but it is a public forum, so you take out, what you think is relavent;).My point, as for the junior members of TBGA, give them all the help you can, as there the future bowhunters that we'll read about when where old and grey

toto
10-04-08, 08:18 PM
toto you just hit the nail right on the head
Thankyou :D

Luke
10-04-08, 09:51 PM
There are too many good blokes (and girls) in bowhunting to waste time on the bad ones.

(Same goes for posts and threads.)

A good friend told me that last year and it has been a golden piece of advice.

Thanks must go to that mate. ;)

Make up your own minds what is worth reading and what is not, who is worth conversing with and who is not, who's advice will stand up and who's wont.

No need to get hung up about it, it's not unlike everyday life anyways.

Keep it positive, keep it objective and remember to debate the point not the person. Be encouraging and helpful and we'll continue to see the site grow and flourish in the fantastic manner it has.

Luke

Kimall
10-04-08, 09:53 PM
I was around when this site started and my only comment would be that it was NOT "To promote bowhunting" it was just a heap of mates talking everything bowhunting.Its only of late that we feel the need to promote it.
Cheers KIM

spiderbait24
10-04-08, 10:06 PM
g'day guys.

as a junior member i think the site is tops :D

i have not replied in many of the threads were there has been confrentation as i hate it, it reminds me of school and for anyone who goes to school today would most probebly know what i mean, the students at my school usualy hang around in groups/gangs and luckily enough there arent many fights but if one does break out it usually doesnt end well, i do the same as i do on here, i stay out of there bussiness, i stay out of there way and they stay out of mine, i respect there actions as they6 are entitled to it, but it is not worth the risk to get involved as you can get in deep *****.

i really dont like it when confretation arrises and wish the world could always do it in a peaceful way, but i doubt that will ever be.

so i respect all your comments and in return i hope you respect mine.

lol, this post probly got nothing to do with this thread but i thought i would put it up :D

Luke
10-04-08, 10:08 PM
I was the person who created this site and with it here is the site mission statement that I created to encapsulate the intention of it's purpose..

"To foster participation in bowhunting.
To promote humane and ethical hunting.
To protect the right to hunt.
To assist and educate fellow hunters."

(in no particular order of importance)

Is promoting bowhunting a bad thing? Should we not be doing this with the goal to help grow our sport?

I think that TBGA promoting bowhunting is our way of helping to grow and strengthen the sport we all love so much, and to maybe help open some of the doors that in the past Aussie bowhunting has not had the means of accessing.

This is after all THE largest Aussie bowhunting website. With more than 3.7 million hits last month and over 2000 individual views per day. I think as a group we have an obligation to make sure we promote (are seen) to be doing what we can, in the best manner possible to put back into what we love and to showcase bowhunting to the greater community in a positive fashion.

I apologise if this does not fit into everyone's vision of what they see the existence of TBGA being.

:confused:

HareSplitter
10-04-08, 10:32 PM
this is all ive got to say; i hope i am not one that pisses others off, im the kinda kid that likes to be right even when i think i might be wrong, but this is a forum for discusing bowhunting and their opinons and everyone is open to their own, also i see that know one really sticks up for each other (imo)... when another steps outta line people just seem to frown uppon that person, how about someone say "excuse me mate that wasnt the best thing to say or mate i dont mean to upset you but you arnt complety correct and "jim" is right but your method isnt that bad" as the person on the key board might not be the person he is in real life, he might be a total legend in real life or maybe someone you think is nice/cool/kind what ever you want to call them, they might be a total ****, chatting over a machine is alot different to talking to them in real life, you shouldnt fully judge someone over a three word insult that might be a joke or just mucking around, know one knows how the other person on the other end is going to react....
as im a junior and as others are some might take me or them seriously and some others may not,
kind regards jono hughes

troy
10-04-08, 10:54 PM
Having been a memeber of a few sites regarding my various intersts I think this is the best site for decorum and behaviour. Yeah I have had a couple of posts moderated for getting a bit heated myself but I still think it's your right to say someone is an idiot if thats what you think. The difference being, as a couple of guys have already said is that, not everyone likes the truth. In saying that I also believe that a lot of comments are often taken out of context. Not actualy seeing someone and hear the way they pronounce the words they are communicating can really change the message they are trying to get across. Also coming from a nation of S&*t Stirrers I would have thought most people on here can take a joke so I don't really see that as being a problem.

My only gripe with some members of this site, is their persistent posts along the lines that because they are fortunate enough to hunt more reguarly than others that they should be the only people able to pass comment. At least thats the way it has been coming across not just to myself mind you others I know offline have made the same comment. I personnaly have taken the same approach as Luke. To quote Lukes earlier comment,
"There are too many good blokes (and girls) in bowhunting to waste time on the bad ones. (Same goes for posts and threads.)".

Dead set guys and girls this site is far better than most, it's real, the majority of people are honest and helpful and above all the way the site is used and moderated in regard to promoting our sport and guiding newcomers in the right direction is something that everyone who participates on this site should be proud of. There are people on here that in the past you'd have only seen in magazines but thanks t the site you have the opportunity to not only ask them questions but potentially meet and become friends with them. Fairdinkum look at the amount of people on here who have taken newcomers under their wing and helped them not only become better archers but have even taken them hunting and provided them with the opportunity to obtain their first game.

Cheers to you all.
Troy

Warlocke
11-04-08, 10:09 AM
My only gripe with some members of this site, is their persistent posts along the lines that because they are fortunate enough to hunt more reguarly than others that they should be the only people able to pass comment. At least thats the way it has been coming across not just to myself mind you others I know offline have made the same comment.

I get the same feeling Troy.

This is a very good site and should be fostered.

In my opinion every human has some information to share and most that use this site do share their knowledge freely, whether it be bowhunting, bushcraft or some other skill that they have had personal involvement with.

The fact that someone wants to be a bowhunter and share the passion, is enough forum credential for me.

The smell of Bull$hit is fairly easy to detect.

rinaldo
11-04-08, 12:02 PM
I remember a while back there was some members on here who made this site a place to be avoided, thankfully they have moved on and I believe this site has improved ten fold. If you happen to disagree with them or there opinions or had an idea that might be construed as a little out there you certainly drew the brunt of there ire. I don't think we are anywhere near how it use to be.

If I find a thread which does not appeal or find boring I ignore it. If I don't agree on a particular topic or post I try to discuss or challenge the idea with out sledging the individual (I am not always successful).:P

If we play the ball rather than the man then I don't think there should be a problem. Just my 2 cents worth. Best hunting site in Australia without a doubt...thanks Luke for providing us with an outlet.

Luke
11-04-08, 12:12 PM
Best hunting site in Australia without a doubt...thanks Luke for providing us with an outlet.

Thanks mate, but it is not just me who deserves thanks. :rolleyes:

Each of the mods and admin certainly shoulder their share and all should take on board the gratitude you offer mate. I know I certainly am VERY greatful for the role each of them play.

At the end of the day everyone who posts makes this site what it is so the thanks does not stop with members of Management - we just try to keep the machine well oiled and long running. :D

Sparra
11-04-08, 05:35 PM
I will say that there is a large amount of 'non animal shooting' apparent hunters on the forum, who I don't beleive pull much cred. from the hunter's on this site.

Think back mate...It wasn't that long ago that you were one of these...