yowieman... ever heard of bubble wrap???

[Chuditch]

I hate to do this as I'm not fond of negative repping, nevertheless this bloke sent me a verna longbow and did not bubblewrap it or give it any protective covering whatsoever, apart from a 'magic' brown cardboard box. The result was that the top limb got completely smashed and delaminated. I'm spewing... this would have been a sweet deal had he only taken a little more care in wrapping it. Aust post is partly to blame and I am taking it up with them, been informed I may get $50 back from my investment....

Whoopeee :mad:

[Clinglish]

that sucks Chuditch

[chris]

Hope aussie post and yowieman do the right thing mate,

Chirs

[Chuditch]

Yeah thanks for the interest fellas. I blame myself as much as anybody else. I should have paid extra for shipping and packing etc and stipulated how I wanted it packed.

Not much else to say really, I'm gutted.

I'm putting it down to experience and a lesson to be learnt. I don't believe in going on and on about it.

'No sense in crying over spilt milk' and all that kind of thing

[Sparra]

If the top limb was totally smashed I would think that bubble wrap would have made very little difference...good luck with it...
Sparra...

[Chuditch]

About 8 inches of the top limb delaminated went into three different delaminations. Obviously the nock tip was broken too.

In this instance, I have to disagree sparra, bows when packed properly can take a fair amount of bashing. I'd never ship a bow or anything else for that matter without adequate packing.

[GOLDGT]

Unlucky mate. I had a longbow come from the states in its bow sock with 2 cardboard tubes taped together over it. Mind you it arrived here without a scatch so i was lucky. Bet that didnt make ya feel much better though. 90mm PVC drain pipe works a treat.

[chris]

And its cheep

[RazorX]

It pays to insure postage items with Australia Post. Bubble wrap wouldn't have stopped limb delamination, it would only prevent scratching. Unfortunately, some of the longer packages can be damaged with Australia Post. It's not the first time I've seen or heard of it, and I have seen bows delaminated with Australia Post that were undamaged when send from Korea.

The only sure way to be safe is to insure your postal item/s.

[TOWER*2007]

Yeah some people have no common sense.

I had a similar thing recently. I had a bow sent in a cardboard box alone, no packing on the ends. Of course it wore through on a large metal staple in the end of the box and scratched the end of the cam up.

As i said to them even a bit of scrunched up newspaper, (no cost) would stop it rattling around would have prevented it, idiots

[---Damo---]

PVC pipe is the go.we get loads of fishing rods bought online through work and ive never taken a damaged one off the truck yet.Most people dont stop to think that your parcel will be on a truck,plane or just a freight cage for that matter with 100s of other parcels and they cant all be on the top :).Definatly chase it up with Aust post though and if you get the run around shoot me a pm and i will ask the post master i deliver to exactly what their obligations are.Good luck....Damo

[Chuditch]

Yeah cheers Damo,

Well their obligations are pretty much sweet FA... They will pay $50 if I produce a reciept.

I know it seems a bit harsh on yowieman and some of you guys have said that bubble wrap will do little to protect it from delamination... I still beg to differ, a properly wrapped item will always be better protected than one just bouncing around in a box.

What appears to have happened is that a door was closed on the end of the box. Now if the item had been wrapped in bubble wrap it would have copped a hit but not just smashed the end... The box would probably still be intact... hell, even some new newspaper would have helped to cushion the blow.

It's true though, I should have insured the item and asked for it to be packed 'just so'. I think I have expressed this earlier in this thread.

[Luke]

I thought I'd see what I could find out for you mate. I have a few connections in Aussie post. So, to quote someone I know personally who has worked for Aussie post for nearly 40 yrs (seriously!). :o

Without adequate packaging, and by that I mean a strong container with padding inside (enough to have a distance of an inch or more between the article and the outer box/container) you are not going to have any chance of getting the item delivered without any damage. This is particularly relevent to large, long or bulky items.

If the article was not adequately packed, then Aust Post really can refuse to pay any compensation at all. Not even the $50 which is a discretionary payment that can be made by the Postal Manger for damages to ordinary items (not registered or insured).

Aust Post normally should only accept items that are no longer than 105 cms unless it has a contract with the sender for such items to be sent.

I personally believe the onus is on the sender to compensate you (ie, give your money back). In my opinion common sense should have said it required protecting esp as I'm imagining it was probably a fair sum of money exchange.

Sorry to hear about the incident mate, I hope you get the $50 from the PO.

cheers

Luke

[---Damo---]

Working in this industry i can tell you that all non correctly packaged items are 100% the reponsibility of the sender and there is such a thing called the 4 foot drop with alot of the major shippers.That is your parcel must be able to withstand any damage from a fall of 4 foot or you will not be compensated at all.although this isnt always enforced.

[Chuditch]

Luke, Damo,

Thanks for your interest and replies to the thread. I think if the sender feels that he has some responsibility then it is up to him how he deals with it. I did not post it up to hunt him out or point the finger, just not my style.

I just posted it to make forum memebrs aware of the perils of getting things posted and hope that in the future yowieman chucks some bubble wrap down for any other items that may be posted off.

[Glenn]

If you send somehing through the post and you don't pack it correctly and you don't insure it then ofcourse it is your responsibilty to the compensate the person you sent it to. You paid for a bow that should have reached you in one piece, not a broken one, you wouldn't think there would be any argument there...Glenn...