Looking at a CSS

[Casey-G]

Is a nice bow i had a look at it today, is second hand, 18 months old comes with arrows aid drop away rest, lots of stuff ect.. Im pretty sure the bow is a swamp master pro.

Needs a new string, n he will sell it all to me for about $600Aus,

atm it has single cam + idler, but can have second cam put back on taking the draw weight up to 120lb.

ive pretty much made my mind up on it, ill get it off him and get a new string on it, give it a few at the target, and go from there.

just pondering on your opinion on this, should i be looking at anything else before i get it?

[special]

Yep...about 6 mnths in the gym...120 pound draw:eek:

[Casey-G]

mm yer eventually, i can draw it at 90, which is what its at now.

[HareSplitter]

120 pounds :o:o!!... ummm steroids are illegal in australia:confused: :P

[Bo-Hunta]

MY GOD...90 or 120 pound that's huge..:eek::eek:

Just make sure that you don't end up with a bow that is way to heavy for you.. Speaking from experience as a niave 16 year old i though i could pull 70lb and ended up struggling away with it for a few years, ended up with a nasty shoulder problem that lead to neck problems (OK now but took quite a bit of physio and special exercises to sort it out!!!)

It is one thing to be able to draw it but to draw it correctly and constistantly is something else.

One of my old coaches said that to test if the bow is to strong for you.. Sprint for 50m or so them try and draw straight away (while you are out of breath).. If you cannot draw it smoothly and without reefing it back then it is to heavy.. May save a lot of pain and heartache later..

Mick

[Casey-G]

well it doesnt over bow me at 90, i can put about 10 bolts through it without a prob. 120 is anothr chapter, and would only attempt that after a few months of heavy weight training.

[HareSplitter]

are we talking about a bow or x-bow?

[Casey-G]

No, a bow, its at 90#

X-bow, well current bow is at peak weight, just a smidgen over 70#

[nev]

why do you want such a heavy poundage bow for?

[hunt or be hunted]

im lost, are you buying a cross bow or a compound bow?

dan.

[Casey-G]

compound man, its heavy i kno

[special]

You need that for 'bunny bustin':eek::P:P

[Casey-G]

You need that for 'bunny bustin':eek::P:P

Yeah, haha, no im gonna start deer and pigs quite soon actually.

[lemmiwinks]

Any wannabe can shoot a rabbit with a 50lb bow but it takes a real man to shoot a rabbit with a 100lb bow..

[nev]

Any wannabe can shoot a rabbit with a 50lb bow but it takes a real man to shoot a rabbit with a 100lb bow..:o
:P:P:P;)

[XTfreak]

What year and model is it?
Here is some food for thought.
Do you know that CSS was bought out by Horton (The crossbow folks) earlier this year and they are NOT honouring the warrenty on any of the CSS bows that were not manufactured since being bought out?
I' ve had 6 CSS bows and never had a bit of trouble with them. Mind you they were all 60 or 70lb bows. I didnt know CSS made a 120lb bow..
Bill

[howie]

I would check up the prices of second hand CSS bows with archery shops and on the web, it's 18 months old and if warranty is an issue as mentioned, give it more consideration ....... Might be worth saving another couple of hundred and getting a newy, with warranty and you know it has not been abused........

[stevenn]

120lb i just cant think of anything to say 120lb.some of you guys on here crack me up big time....steve

[special]

Just remmember you have to get arrows that suit it...they will be harder to get than you think...especially if you have a long draw lenght....you mentioned you can put 10 arrows thru it...if its not to heavy for you..you should be able to put 100 thru it ,while holding horizontal on target and slowly drawing without jerking...if you cant,you will cause youself more injury than your prey....the deer will bolt if they hear you fart every time you draw:P

[Thwack!]

What sort of arrows are you gonna find to shoot out of a 120# bow, unless your draw length is real short or your gonna put a small arrow inside a large one - you might have trouble finding an arrow off the shelf that will fly any good out of it especially with a broadhead over 125grn hanging out the front.

If you really want a heavy pound bow and you are strong enough to shoot it, stick around the 60 to 70# mark, you will have more than enough power for anything you want to hunt and you wont have a monster of a bow that you will never be able to re-sell or shoot comfortably. You wont have to custom make, expensive, heavy arrows just so you can have a shot. And you wont wreck your body in the process.

All the advise leaning towards politely talking you out of a monster of a bow is GOOD ADVICE, you should really consider it.

PS: Arh Special, you just pipped me on the arrows issue.

[howie]

I reckon with a heavy well tuned arrow, would make a great buff bow.

[bowhunting4eva]

120lb is alot for a 17 year old lol. i am 18 and can draw 70lb but prefer 60lb. you must a buff guy lol

[special]

Are you only 17:eek:...anything over 60lb max draw will be a waste of money...unless your over 100kg of solid muscle....dont let your ambition blur your capability;)

[brendan e]

mate what are you going to kill with 120lb that you cant kill with a 70lb bow. there is no way you could shoot that sort of poundage consistantly.
cheers

[nev]

what are you going to kill with a 120lbs that you cant do with a 50# bow

[bowhunting4eva]

what are you going to kill with a 120lbs that you cant do with a 50# bow

a buff, scrub bull, elephant, giraffe, hippo,rhino

sorry i had 2:P:P

[HareSplitter]

i still cant get over it... 120#!!!!!! mate dinosaurs are extinct, your going to have to use tent poles as arrows :P
are you sure it's that much?, and if it is 120 can i have some of what ever you've been smoking :D
good luck with it mate :)

[PATBOWTECH]

Mate take the advice you are getting and run dont walk run away from that
rhino stopper.
When I was 16 back home (Ireland) I bought a old shottie for 30 old Irish pounds
caus I had fell in love with the way it looked a real mans weapon it had the following

a 39 inch barrell (with stock and chamber its total lenght was 46 inches)

weighted over 14 lbs

and was chambered for 8gauge (bore) shells

a box of standard 12 bore shells(25) was 3.50 pounds. a box of 8 bore was 18.50 for 8

and kicked like 3 mules. any of this sound like a 17 year old you might know

[nev]

english war arrows were 1/2inch thick and 1200grains and i didnt think we were alowed to talk about shooting protected animals elephants rinos etc

ps in the U.S you can and they do shoot moose with 50#ers



...nev...

[NormGunston]

Please mate, if the bow really is the poundage you have been told, take the advice you asked for and forget about it. I've been 17 and wanted a compound bow (long ago) so know where you're coming from. At that time, I remember many archers asking a quite well-built champion field archer (Jim Rose) why he shot only a 40# bow when he could handle a much higher poundage. He replied that he could shoot it accurately all day and longer, if needed. Less is often more.
Also, if you were to buy the 120# CSS, there would be a very small market should you wish to sell it. There are a ton of other bows around. And as has been insisted on so many times, shoot the bow you intend to buy as much as possible to see whether it really is the one for you.

[Casey-G]

Alright guys, sorry its been a late reply, i have been trying to get my mind around this guy who is selling it, from what i have gathered he's an apprentice somewhere, had a bit of money to blow, and went out and bought this bow. He is a rifle guy now and from what i have learned does not know much about archery n all this, i mean it should have clicked when i was using it, 90lb draw @29" should have been impossible for me to draw, so what im guessing at here is that he has the draw weight and kinetic energy in foot pounds mixed up. That should be and probably is the only logical answer here, i would be assuming its around the 70lb mark for draw weight in which i have no worries drawing back.

This thread kinda got blown up over over my mistake i think, sorry for the dud info on the bow, but i could only really go on what he had told me at the time, there's no real info on the bow but it is in really good condition, do CSS usualy have a sticker on there bows?

cheers guys

[Casey-G]

The bow is 70lb ill get pictures up, do any of you guys think you could do a quick price range from the pics for me?

the 120 came from 120ft-lb's, the guy didnt really know what he was talking about...

cheers