Joining ABA..Worth it?

[No eye deer]

G'day,

What do you reckon.As I live 170k's away from the nearest ABA club (Redcliff Vic.) would joining be worthwhile? What exactly do they do for their members?
These are genuine questions,not intended to sound like criticism in any form.

Thanks,
Mark

[ed]

I'll second that question. Being a mamber of a non-ABA club I wonder what they can do for me too?

[HOOD]

Take your money for a start :lol: :lol:

[Sparra]

Gaday Mark...i am in the ABA because the club i am in is affilliated with them and now with the advent of the game council in NSW I will have to be in such an organisation to aquire and R licence..otherwiswe i would not bother...

[dean]

you get hunting insurance. a bi-monthly magazine. you can attend any ABA shoot. you can get a bowhunting proficiency certificate. when trying to get access to new land you can tell the farmer all of this, maybe he wont think you're a backyard hack. :lol:

[ed]

pardon my ignorance, but why would you need insurance?

[jindydiver]

pardon my ignorance, but why would you need insurance?

And what would that insurance cover exactly?

[rinaldo]

In case you shoot farmer Browns prize bull or you fall down and break a leg . Well thats what I've been told


The land owners insurance would cover the bull or any accident you might have.

[Luke]

IMO you're better off putting the $ to your own insurance, at least you know what you're covered for then...not like ABA insurance...it'a a bigger mystery than where Osama Binladen is :evil:

[topendbowman]

[quote=ed]pardon my ignorance, but why would you need insurance?
In case you shoot farmer Brown?? :P

[johnno]

I'm with Luke.. I have no doubts IMO that the ABA woudn't cover you or any negligence on your part unless it was in the course of a sanctioned ABA shoot. In the instances of any damage caused whilst hunting on private or crown land I suspect that the ABA would decline all liability. Although the farmer might be able to claim against the death of his prize bull, his insurers solicitors would, in all probability, mount a recovery action against the 3rd party, namely the nit with the bow. As Luke suggested..best to have your own coverage, possibly some blanket type of public liability cover that covers you for acts of negligence or damage whilst hunting, however, off the top of my head I am unaware if any such "hunters" coverage exits. Does any one have such insurance and does it cover just them or anyone else with whom they are hunting. :?: I seem to recall that the SSAA (Sporting Shooters Association of Australia) may have provided to their members some similar type of indemnity cover. Maybe something for Admin to look into as I wouldn't mind throwing a few dollars in to have such coverage :D

[barebow]

This insurance thing has just lost me an excellent hunting property.The place changed hands about 18 months ago from father to son and I haven't been doing much hunting but I contacted the owner last week to see if my daughter and I could have a look for a goat or two.
He told me he has stopped everyone from hunting on the 2 properties he owns because he is frightened he will be sued if someone hurts themselves.Public Liability he called it.
Now I have helped this fellow and his father muster,fence,fed sheep and cattle in the drought,load and unload trucks and a myriad of other things in the past 35 years and it has come to this.
I was actually left stunned and never thought about the ABA insurance and sporting shooters indemnity but will leave it a couple of weeks and contact him again and explain this. :shock:
He told me it has absolutely nothing to do with the way I have conducted myself and I have never done anything wrong,he just won't take the risk of being sued.After all it is his livelihood and his land and in this day of everyone sueing people you cannot blame him. :(

[jindydiver]

Barebow
Join spoorting shooters and you get public liability insurance as part of the deal. It will cover him no worries for anything that may happen to you that you might sue him over.

[Barry]

I am generally not covered by my ABA insurance as I mostly hunt with non- ABA members or those that have not done thier Proficiency.

So I would go with the sporting shooters option.

[barebow]

I am a member of Sporting Shooters and ABA.

When I do speak to him again I will let him know about the insurance factor.It just threw me after going there for so many years to be told no hunting because of this ridiculous insurance stuff.

Another thing we can thank American society for.

[barebow]

Coach is that rubbish in QLD?I haven't heard anything about it up here yet.

Another way to raise tax revenue and stifle our freedom a bit more. :evil:

[jindydiver]

You will find that farmers are becoming more aware of insurance issues because Workcover is doing a lot of work to make it so. You would not believe all the crap that farmers have to go through now just to get on with their buisness :roll: