high country speed force??

[DavidJHardy]

i had a look for previous threads about this bow but couldn't find what i am looking for so... can someone that has one tell me what they think about the speed force and answer some questions...
can you change the draw length with out a bow press?
do you get limb pockets problems... like the old martin i used to have every now and then you would have to do it up again cos it came undone and lost poundage?
how quiet is it?
how tough are the limbs?
what kind of quiver mount does it have or what quivers does it accept?

help is much welcomed... thanks dave

[special]

Pivoting limb pockets and 354IBO....found that much in one minute....google it..theres heaps of sites and US forums discussing it....the photo was vague..but it lookes like bolt on mods...cheers.

[kal_mike]

I think they have the same type of cams as my Stiletto which allow the draw length to be changed without a press. As it is a fairly new model I doubt many people have them.

[DavidJHardy]

when did it come out

if it has what i want i'm pretty sure it will be my 2009 bow

[rinaldo]

when did it come out

if it has what i want i'm pretty sure it will be my 2009 bow
Didn't you say the same thing about a Hoyt and XForce.:P

[i'm a guy like me]

.......and every mathews

[DavidJHardy]

Didn't you say the same thing about a Hoyt and XForce.:P

i don't know what you mean i have a hoyt and i don't like the x-force


.......and every mathews

and i would get a mathews i love them but you can't change the draw length with out changing the cam and i am still growing so i'll will get one when i don't have to change my draw every 4-6 months

[rinaldo]

If you are serious about getting one give the importers a call and ask a few questions. I don't know how long you have been shooting or what skill level you are at but a be aware that 350fps bow isn't always the easiest to shoot. 350fps comes at a price there is no such thing as a free lunch.:confused:
I have shot some fast bows that are absolute pigs to shoot ie Mathew Black Max2 with turbo cam. One of the nicest bows I have shot is the Hoyt Ultraelite at 305fps it is slow by todays standards buy a joy to shoot.

[howie]

I would rather have an easy bow to draw and shoot than a speed demon dog of a thing.

[Ozchuck]

The xforce SS isnt 350FPS, its 330 FPS.
Still pretty fast though.

[DavidJHardy]

so are you saying this bow isn't the nicest bow to shoot... is the draw cycle really rough? i don't think it could be to bad i have heard a lot of people say that it is quite nice but then again the trykon is pretty rough (IMO) and people say the same. the bow i have ATM is rated at 309fps and feels like a dog to me but i think it would only be doing about 270fps or something so a speed force on 65-70lbs would be a bit different but nothing you can't get use to (i took a bit to get used to the draw cycle on my bow but now i am used to it i love it)

and BTW... howie have you actually shot ths bow or are you just saying that about it being a demon dog... is it...? it would be nice to hear more peoples opinions

dave

[johnno]

it would be nice to hear more peoples opinionsdave

Why..based on you other posts..i.e. problems you were having with a WB rest..that ended up be a very looooong and drawn out saga..you virtually ignored any advice given and ultimately it required the intervention by Luke to close the thread. Generally you present as a very obstinate young man..so you will probably disregard any advice given by much older, wiser and experienced on this forum. The general content of the questions you ask suggest you are a novice archer and a 354ibo bow is NOT for a novice archer as has already been pointed out to you. There is absolutely NO point in asking a question, unless your prepared to accept the answer :mad:

[DavidJHardy]

yeah sorry about that johnno i think i learned my lesson there... i'm all ears... i accept the fact that i am a novice and did not know that fast bows aren't a good idea for novices can someone tell me why?

[special]

Mate..Dont worry about IBO and all that crap...just get a bow you can handle...if it feels good..draws smooth...it'll do your job....you'll be a better hunter with a draw cycle you can handle..than a monster bow that shoots broomhandles at a million miles an hour,but makes you grunt like Maria Sharapova every time you try and draw it;)...they'll hear you comin and bolt:rolleyes:

[kal_mike]

As stated I have a HCA bow with similar cams, there is no doubt that it has an agressive draw thats where the power comes from you draw the full weight all the way to the very narrow valley. In saying that I find it quite easy to use as the draw is consistant all the way without any lumps. With the longer ATA (mine is only 31") of the speed force should go alright, but the old advice should always apply that is try before you buy if at all possible...

[DavidJHardy]

but the old advice should always apply that is try before you buy if at all possible...[/quote]


Mate..Dont worry about IBO and all that crap...just get a bow you can handle...if it feels good..draws smooth...it'll do your job....you'll be a better hunter with a draw cycle you can handle..than a monster bow that shoots broomhandles at a million miles an hour,but makes you grunt like Maria Sharapova every time you try and draw it;)...they'll hear you comin and bolt:rolleyes:

yeah guys i only started this thread cos i wanted to find out a bit about them just to get a wider view on the range of bows and think they look like a pretty tanky bow...but yeah i am going to try before i buy...(if i do buy)... i just thought i would see if i could find out the quality of there make... and i don't mind a harsh draw cycle so if i can handle the power then i think it looks like a prospect for the future

[DavidJHardy]

out of interest what would a speed force be doing on 65lbs @ 28.5'' with a vapor hunter whitetail 400 8.9gpi roughly around 410grains??

[rinaldo]

As stated I have a HCA bow with similar cams, there is no doubt that it has an agressive draw thats where the power comes from you draw the full weight all the way to the very narrow valley. In saying that I find it quite easy to use as the draw is consistant all the way without any lumps. With the longer ATA (mine is only 31") of the speed force should go alright, but the old advice should always apply that is try before you buy if at all possible...
What is the finish like on your model and have you has any problems with it?

[kal_mike]

The finish is OK not great the grip looks a bit unfinished and the paint has chipped off the cams. I think mine was built about the time the new owners took over which by all accounts has turned the brand around. I have had no problems with the bow and have put a few thousand shots through it.

[hunt or be hunted]

If you want a nice smooth, fast, accurate, stable and forgiving bow then get a Ross;) its the answer to success.






Dan.

[HOOD]

so are you saying this bow isn't the nicest bow to shoot... is the draw cycle really rough? i don't think it could be to bad i have heard a lot of people say that it is quite nice but then again the trykon is pretty rough (IMO) and people say the same. the bow i have ATM is rated at 309fps and feels like a dog to me but i think it would only be doing about 270fps or something so a speed force on 65-70lbs would be a bit different but nothing you can't get use to (i took a bit to get used to the draw cycle on my bow but now i am used to it i love it)

and BTW... howie have you actually shot ths bow or are you just saying that about it being a demon dog... is it...? it would be nice to hear more peoples opinions

dave

You make no sence. On minute your baggin your own bow and then saying that you love it! :confused:

I for one if i thought my bow was a dog to shoot I'd be getting rid of it.
If it's a dog it's a dog there's no loving it. But hey thats JMO.:rolleyes:

[DavidJHardy]

yeah hood i see why you got confused there...LOL maybe i used the wrong word oops... i meant it doesn't seem all that fast to me compared to other bows i have shot maybe i should have said ''the bow i have now is rated at 309fps but does not feel all that fast to me'';)

[DavidJHardy]

If you want a nice smooth, fast, accurate, stable and forgiving bow then get a Ross;) its the answer to success.






Dan.


:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P
dude do you get payed by ross to advertise if so... love your work man keep it up and if not your sure hooked on that ross and you should be being payed...LOL:P:P

[i'm a guy like me]

Control your keyboard diarrhea DJH. You gotta think before you type. Seems like your only trying to get your number of posts higher sometimes. Just seeing your user name in a thread frustrates me.......and obviously others.

[special]

:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P
dude do you get payed by ross to advertise if so... love your work man keep it up and if not your sure hooked on that ross and you should be being payed...LOL:P:P

Have you actually shot a ROSS...if not dont bag them...try one and find out what a good bow is all about!...until you shoot one you'll never know...afterall its Hoyt that has its name splashed on everyones shirt...doesnt mean they are better...just good at wasting money...get a life..better still get a ROSS:P

[special]

OK..I hope i dont blow my copyright by releasing thid early...and dont try copying it..because patents are pending..but due to high demand im proud to release early the...DJH WEB FILTER....fits all computers..simply install between your tower and screen as pictured.....costs a few bucks and lasts ages(unless you have females in the house)...


http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/special4444/bows103.jpg






Dont try and copy my design ...just send me all your money and ill send you a six pack....and please treat this as the joke that it is:P

[EcoMuse]

Hey Dave, mate I am only new to this sport (maybe 18 months in after a long absence). I am currently shooting a PSE Stinger and finding that whilst its slow, noisy and inexpensive compared to others on the market, its still a bow and it gets me out in the bush just about every weekend. I have taken rabbits and goats (OK, a goat) and nearly a fox with my bow...it doesnt really matter whether you have the fastest or latest model mate, all that matters is that it gets you out bowhunting!

[i'm a guy like me]

Only a 6 pack? Can DJH buy by the pallet?

[special]

Sorry Dave...Ill behave myself now....just couldnt help it mate..

[johnno]

Sorry Dave...Ill behave myself now....just couldnt help it mate..

No No...never back down when your on a winner...:rolleyes::rolleyes: I'll take a pallet load !!!!....:P:P

[DavidJHardy]

i have just bought a couple my self ie sorry for all the sh** you guys have put up with i'm the one that should be behaving my self... if you have already bought some you can use them as toilet paper now cos you wont need them... sorry guys my bad

[rinaldo]

OK..I hope i dont blow my copyright by releasing thid early...and dont try copying it..because patents are pending..but due to high demand im proud to release early the...DJH WEB FILTER....fits all computers..simply install between your tower and screen as pictured.....costs a few bucks and lasts ages(unless you have females in the house)...


http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/special4444/bows103.jpg






Dont try and copy my design ...just send me all your money and ill send you a six pack....and please treat this as the joke that it is:P
Nice product oh please tell me where I can buy this product. How fast can someone wipe with this particular product and does it come in different colours:P ROFLMAO

[special]

i have just bought a couple my self ie sorry for all the sh** you guys have put up with i'm the one that should be behaving my self... if you have already bought some you can use them as toilet paper now cos you wont need them... sorry guys my bad

Good onya Dave..sorry mate...but you coulda waited till i sold a few pallets:P

[HOOD]

Good onya Dave..sorry mate...but you coulda waited till i sold a few pallets:P

You still may be able to make some sales yet.
That is if they are adjustable for filtering other potential dribblers. :P:P
If so what modifications need to be made if any? :P:P
And does removing any of the sheets alter it's ability to filter the heavier dribblers?

Ok I'm done now.:rolleyes:

[special]

Yeah..im releasing the Special model next:P:confused:....i think we can give it a rest now...message recieved;)

[Wareagle]

I had a Ross once...all I can say is, yeah it's a bow. I also had a HC Iron Mace.......piece of_______

[rinaldo]

I had a Ross once...all I can say is, yeah it's a bow. I also had a HC Iron Mace.......piece of_______
How do the they compare to the Elite Synergy?

[will]

Consider the Ross, i own an 07 Cardiac and it is the best bow i have ever shot. It is smooth reliable and powerful.
i have really enjoyed shooting it.

[special]

The Ross are great for what i hunt..up to deer..and prob suit much larger game...but if i lived up north and hunted buff for instance it'd be pretty hard to go past an x force...suppose it depends on preference..and use..

[rory]

i would love to wipe a delta goodrem on the djh paper :)!

[hunt or be hunted]

DJH= 0:P Special= WINNER:D

Loved that Filter pic mate, absolute cracker.


oh and David, i dont need to get paid to tell the truth about Ross, other companys like Hoyt might want to start paying you to keep your mouth zipped;) im sure they wouldn't like their bows getting called ''dogs''.




Dan.

[i'm a guy like me]

I just found the ignore list in user CP!!!!

[special]

Ok.Guys...Weve had our dig...your making me feel a bit guilty about the filter..I realise it wasnt too appropriate...Nuff said i reckon...Me and Dave have settled our differences..I reckon we let him start afresh and Ill try and behave also;)

[killthatpig12]

good stuff :P:P:P

[XTfreak]

Hopefully this thread wont start all over again come November and the release of all the 09 model bows.;)
Wait a minute what am I thinking???
This thread will probably still be running!!:o
Bill

[Wareagle]

How do the they compare to the Elite Synergy?
I had the Elite Synergy, it was a nice bow. The GT500 is the best Elite I've owned, smooth to draw, fast, and a tack driver. having a single track for both cables, the cams sit up reasonably straight. I'm waiting for a Ninja to arrive from the Aust. supplier.:)