fave broadheads for foxes

[DUFFMAN]

ok story first, just bagged my first fox yesterday but im not happy

heres what happend, i was looking around the propperty i work on yesterday on my lunchbreak trying to find some rabbits and i found what looked like a likely fox spot, a heap of peppercorn trees on a large sand hill with a heap of rabbit burrows.

i only had a couple of cheap bodkin style broadys with me and a heap of blunts so i loaded up a broadhead, found a good hiding spot under a tree and gave it my best "squashed mouse" impersonation.

to my absolute amazement a fox came running full tilt out of the trees straight at me about 50m away!

anyway i collected my witts enough to draw as he went out of sight for a second behind a slight hill and as he came over the top i put the 20m pin on his chest and released, landing what i thought was a perfect shot mid chest 3/4 front on.

to my horror the fox launched into a series of backflips and cartwheels but didnt die, i quickly sent the next broadhead the same way again hitting the chest side on this time, passing straight thru and seeming to achieve stuff all!

out of desperation i loaded a blunt and put the pin on its head, luckily the shot was good and the fox finaly expired, in reality only a few secconds had past but that is not what i had hoped to achieve at all.

my question is what did i do wrong?
im using a bowtech independence @70lb, range was 20m aprox so it should have been an easy clean kill i would hav thought.

could my broadheads be at fault?

thanx in advance

[hunt or be hunted]

first up, top job on the fox. secondly, were your broadheads razor sharp? i dont know how much experience you have had but i will tell you anyway. when you shoot a fox (or any decent sized animal) they will rarely die on the spot, most times they will make a quick 5-10-20m dash (could be more depending on the shot) and then role over dead if hit correctly. i would of sat back and waited for the first shot to bring the fox down. when i got my first fox i put a quiver full of arrows into it (4:cool:) just to make sure it was down and out but after that i tend to make the shot and if its in the vitals then just sit back and watch until it rolls over.


hope that was of some help.




Dan.

[adam]

Hey mate, don't beat yourself up to much, if it was only a few seconds then I consider that to be a reasonable quick kill as there are seconds in all animals expirering from blood loss. The fox would have been running on a burst of adrenalin. If your broadheads are razor sharp (shaving hair sharp) then there certainly not at fault, though I do hate Bodkins with a passion as they don't hold a edge very well nor sharpen well. I like to use blackstumps or g5 strikers on foxes but any razor sharp broadhead with an inch or more cutting diameter will do the trick.

Congrats on teh fox mate, any pictures for us.

Adam

[i'm a guy like me]

Good on you, one less pest. Every animal will react differently when hit with the good news. Some drop on the spot, some do the bolt, some don't even flinch. I'm not familiar with the broadhead but I would not be concerned about it unless the cutting diameter is small, I like an inch minimum but that is personal preference.

[DUFFMAN]

yeah sorry no pics guys, fone was in the truck at the time, il giv em another stir up in a week or 2, hopefuly have some pics then, i dont like the broadys because as mentioned i cant get a decent edge on them so il upgrade b4 i go after foxes again, what heads do u guys use? anyone, im fairly new at bowhunting, ive come from a rifle background and im loving the challenge but ive got a lot to learn

[hunt or be hunted]

i shoot blackstumps, they are MEGA tough and hold a good edge.






Dan.

[adam]

Main thing with any broadhead Duffman is that they are able to shave the hairs off your arms and fly were you aim. If there not razor sharp they won't Kill efficently as they push most of the vitals away that you are trying to cut, Also animals don't react as quickly or at all to razor sharp heads as it zips through with much more ease, letting the animal drop a lot quicker and closer.

Hope that helps

[i'm a guy like me]

I like any cheap replaceable 3 blade heads for the foxes. I look for heads that have a HUGE amount of ventilation in the blades to help prevent planing. Others will say different heads but it's just personal preference. Foxes don't have the body mass or the bone structure to warrant that much effort into a broadhead decision. Practically any bladed broadhead out of your bow will do the job so long as it is sharp and put in the right place. Good luck.

[gundy]

125gn Magnus snuffers = foxes that dont run too far at all... :)

Throw the bodkins in the bin....horrible head.

[Grunter]

Throw the bodkins in the bin....horrible head.
Have to agree with that they are crap. My thoughts are a good solid 2 blade B/H that as has been said, shaving sharpe will do the trick. It comes down to a lot of personal preference as said what heads you like. I would recommend a ton of styles but i think the best for me are the vented Blackstumps, Outbacks or Tusker Spirits.

[DUFFMAN]

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Throw the bodkins in the bin....horrible head.[/quote]


thats the plan, they came free with my sight , only reason i have them

[Rock Steady]

I agree, the bodkin is a horrible head. Good concepts in design but a pain to sharpen and they don't hold an edge well.

Any good razer sharp broad head through the vital will put a fox down pretty quick.

[gundy]

Forgot to mention, grats on the fox! Nothing beats old red running flat out towards you...

[DUFFMAN]

Forgot to mention, grats on the fox! Nothing beats old red running flat out towards you...

cheers mate, spun me out a bit aye, neva had one come running like that before, would have trampled me if i didnt hit it:P

[howie]

If you have a few dollars spare have a look at the Stilleto mechanical broadhead, (3 for $22) they possess a 2 3/4 inch cut from memory. One day I whistled in 2 foxes and shot them with these heads, one hit in the chest drove him backwards, went about 3 yards, and the other received one of the biggest cuts I have seen in my bowhunting time. I wouldn't use these heads on larger game unless you were shooting heavy poundage and arra's. There heads only last a shot or two, not very strong but for foxes they are dynamite......

[PATBOWTECH]

First greetings and welcome to the site.

Second congrats on the fox kill well done.

Third coming from a rifle backround myself I also had to get familiar with
the fact a well placed shot will result in a quarrey moving 5 to 20 or so mts
before dropping,would suggest buying a few bowhunting dvds and study the pros in action
(local aus dvds ie tusker productions).

My fave b/heads are 3blade thunderheads (replaceable blades) 100 or 125 grain weight
what part of the country are You based.

[DUFFMAN]

yorke peninsula SA

[rory]

Shoot em with any style sharp broadhead in the chest and they are toast.

Whether they make it down the den or not a lot of times is pure luck.. :)

[rory]

Hey Patbowtech, mate would love to see a fox that you've gotten with the Thunderheads :) They are a popular broadhead with a good name, just really love too see some game you've shot mate :)

[bowhunting4eva]

howie and i have used big expandables on foxes quite a few times now. the big 4'' blade or even a huge 2 blade expandables(stiletos) usually put the fox down very quickly some even on the spot if you hit them were you want too. although we have also had results with normal 3 bladers and 2 bladers.