Poacher's

[Scott]

Thursday afternoon we arrived at our 6,500 acre property that we have sole hunting rights to. Friday Morning 10:am we found them, rifle shooting poachers! :twisted: They had come in 11:00 pm the night before through the neighbours place and onto our property. The bloody nerv of some people. Thinking we had sent them packing we headed off out the back for a hunt. There was no sign of them any where on the way back so we naturaly thought ok good there gone, 'WRONG'. The mongrels must have parked somewhere in the scrub and waited until we had come out. 2 day's later we were back in the same area and there were vehicle tracks everywhere and the remains of their camp was quite evident. This property joins a National Park and these guys had no hesitation to drive in there. We found 2 dead goats and the remains of a deer carcass along the track in our property. I could not believe they had not left after being busted. And you know the most bizarre twist on the whole deal, I KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND WHERE THEY LIVE. I have already notified the property owners and gave them their names. Next is the National Parks.
I am getting really sick and tired of other hunters poaching and screwing it up for the honest people. In the end the honest hunters are the ones that lose out because of this ignorance to the land holder and other hunter's. To say I am really ticked at the moment is an understatement! This property is one of the best I have ever come across in the 18 years of Bowhunting and be damned if I am going to let these mongrels take it away from me....Scott

[Bowmancam]

Good onya Scott. Stick it to the bastards. :twisted:

Some people realy do have a nerve ...

If i was to find the same poachers twice on 1 of my properties i think they would have trouble leaving with 4 flat tyres... 2 wrongs dont make a right but i'd feel fine watching them drive off on their rims :wink:

Cheers , Cam

[Spider]

Hear you loud and clear Scott. Your 100% right about these a/holes wrecking it for the blokes who go out and do the right thing. Stick it to them and let everyone around know about their behaviour too...Scott

[jindydiver]

Scott
Shoot a note off to the Game council about the deer being shot. If you know their names and you can say they shot the deer the game council will be able to check their records to see if they have a permit. If they have not got a permit the and the Game council inspectors have reason to believe a crime has been committed the inspectors can raid the poachers houses and generally make their life miserable.

Be sure to make a report to the police of what you saw.

[Warlocke]

Scott,

Had the same thing happen to me but the owner closed the property to all comers including myself, who had hunted there for a year without any problems.

Now all the adjoining property owners will not let anyone onto the properties.

Best property I had ever hunted, now I have been chasing Deer all over the place with no luck, while knowing exactly where they are but with no access.

Be careful approaching these people, on a previous thread on TBHGoA2 people have reported threats being made by the poachers.

[Scott]

Warlocke, mate i am very careful how I approach these type. I used to work on the State Forest here at Walcha and delt with alot of this sort of thing, even had a gun pulled on me once, that was a very scary feeling I'll tell. Best thing to do is talk to them like there mates and when its all said and done go to the law. If you feel threatened memorise the number plate if there's a vehicle around and simply walk away.

Jindy, might be a bit hard bringing the Game Council in on this one, the property is right on the QLD, NSW border and one of these guy's is a QLDander, lives in Ipswich. I will splash there names around when the time is right fella's believe me.

[Scott]

Sorry coach, missed that one. you bet I am going to follow this through.

[Piggy]

a mate of mine caucht 3 groups of poachers dogging over a 4 week period all were handed over to the NSW police and only fined $550 each some had firearms in their car but as they were stored correctly were not fined for hvaing them

[Piggy]

All the doggers were from Vic and 1 group got fined $1100ea as they parked their car on the neighbours property and got fined for each property. They have now put up signs on the roads in stating all dogs will be shot on sight if on the property

[jindydiver]

Jindy, might be a bit hard bringing the Game Council in on this one, the property is right on the QLD, NSW border and one of these guy's is a QLDander, lives in Ipswich. I will splash there names around when the time is right fella's believe me.

I doesn't make any diff' what state they are from, it matters what state they shot the dear in. You will never know what the game council can do until you ask. And don't forget to get the cops in on it.

The guy who owns one of the places I shoot on has a working deer farm and each year he was getting people shooting his bucks thru the wire and jumping the fence to take the head. He stopped it all for a few years by going down for a beer at the local pub where the poachers (known to all in town) hang out and while having a beer with a mate saying something along the lines of "Bloody poachers, it's time for a bit of community justice", his mate says "how does that work?". The answer (said load enough for most of the bar to hear), "A shallow grave and a bag of lime". :lol:
I pissed myself when told this story because the guy has a sort of air of believability about him when he talks, and he certainly comes across as someone who would concider that course of action a viable alternative to his poacher problem.
I know I sure as **** wouldn't want to test him on it. :wink:

On another place I shoot at any poachers have to leave their car at the gate (unless of course they bust down the gate to get access) and it is a long walk back to town to get their tyres pumped back up if they are seen. :lol:

[HOOD]

I say that these guys should all be made an example of and showen the full force of the law for their obviouse lack of respect for authority and land owners alike.
I personally have had the opertunity to stalk in on a couple of reds on the neighbouring property to the one that I have access to but never once even thought about going on there with out permission first, so I just sat there watching them through the binos and dreamed. I'm aproaching that property owner on my next trip, so hope fully next time I see the reds I can go onto the property with out worriing about getting a slug put in my backside.

Hood 8)

[Glenn]

Good on you Scott, get up them, poachers are are real pain in the arse and just make life in general hard on the honest hunters out there and poachers have had a lot of good hunting country locked up over the years. These people need to be named in public when the info becomes public knowledge, especially after a prosecution. There has been some record game recorded by pochers, they are not happy doing the wrong thing but want their name up in lights and be rewarded for their wrong doing, lets put their names up in lights so we know who they are and give them the big heave ho, that's all they deserve.
But keep in mind what's good enough for one poacher should be good enough for all poachers, even if they are your friends...Glenn...

[humphrey]

one morning when hunting a nice property in n.e. victoria we crossed the remote public road that seperates the two sides of the property and found about 5 wallabies shot on the side of the road. they were not there the day before so overnight people had driven through and just shot anything in their headlights. :evil:
we reported it to the property owners who weren't surprised at all, as they themselves had been shot at on dusk as they were walking along their fenceline.

i really think that these sorts of crimes should have higher penalties than just a fine. i reckon take away there firearms licence and give them a month in prison.

[outback preditor]

dont woorry. shooting native fauna znd shooying in public places can carry heavy fine and imprisonent.

[ricochet]

Yes can result in many thousands $ fine, the only problem is catching the buggers

[Barry]

Sorry to hear that story Scott, really is sad how much of this goes on.

Such a shame truly. Hope you make life difficult for these people they need to learn.

[jindydiver]

I just got back last night from a great 3 days hunting and the only black spot on my week end was ******** poachers.
On sat«ÉŸ I heard a shot and I thought it came from the wrong direction (there was a rifle shooter on another part of the place). I didn«ÉŸt follow it up and on Sun«ÉŸ morning I found a fallow stag caped out and head missing.
These pricks knew the local show was on and the guy who owns the place reckons it isn«ÉŸt the first time someone has waited till he drove away before poaching the place.
I was thinking about what I should have done to stop this sort of thing and I figure next time I will get off my arse and go get some details of the car so the police can follow it up. I don«ÉŸt think that confronting the guys would be the best option, I am a big bloke and can handle most trouble but I know for sure I am not bullet proof and I have no way of knowing how these guys will react when caught breaking the law, poachers by definition being armed individuals with a lack of respect for the law and others.

[Scott]

Update on the poachers! Just got off the phone from a bloke on the N.P in QLD. They cannot do anything about these guy's unless they physically catch them on the NP on the day. All they can do is warn them they have been seen, they are bad boys, give them a slap on the wrist and tell them don't do it again. Well that just sux.
The guy from NP went onto to say, 'do not tell anybody their names' as yet. More than likely they will do it again and hopfully they can catch them. Now they know who they are and where they live, they will be on the look out. If these mongrels get a hint of whats going on we have lost them. So I will hold my tounge for the time being and see what happens. We can only hope! Scott

[jamie]

Poachers came on to the property i hunt foxes on and while i was stalking a fox heard 2 gun shots. The next thing I heard was the bullets zipping past. :shock: :?
I dont know how close a bullet is if you can hear it but it was to close for me.
I was in full camo and had to run into a big clearing and wave my arms and shout so they knew I was there.
The owner told them to F#&@ off and not to come back. :D

[HOOD]

The next thing I heard was the bullets zipping past. Shocked Confused
I dont know how close a bullet is if you can hear it but it was to close for me.
Well for me no matter how close the bullets were if you can hear them thats bad really really bad. :evil:

By the sounds of things a few of us if not all of us would benefit from wearing a blaze orange camo hat or vest.

Hood 8)

[dama]

I too hate poachers and have had some bad run ins with them.
I used to agree with the blaze orange hats/jackets idea until I heard some stuff.
In one shooting accident where a bloke was killed by his own uncle, the uncle admitted the only reason he had got such a telling shot off at what he thought was a deer was the blaze vest his nephew was wearing gave him a good target to aim at :shock: . How dumb and scary is that.

Also if poachers can see you then they can either aim more accurately (a few bullets to scare you) or be aware that you are around and sneak off and leave(so you never get to catch them ) or find your car/camp and trash it.
These guys are already operating outside the law, their attitude is quite scary at times. We need to have an attitude dobbing all these bastards in.

These days my idea is if they can not see me they will have a harder time hitting me.

[jindydiver]

Pics from the w/e.
The first you can see the deer remains in the center of the pic, the pic being taken from the road. And in the second the waste of a good feed, and the remains of an illgotten trophy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/jindydiver/poacheddeer2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/jindydiver/poacheddeer.jpg

You can see in the first pic how easy it would be for a bowhunter all camoed up to be accidently shot.

[Barry]

This stuff really does distress me!!!!

[jindydiver]

What a waste of meat Jindy! :x

I was so pissed off when I took that pic, that big guy could have done my family for about 3 weeks, and we eat a lot of deer meat. Just his loin strips would have done us (a family of four big meat eaters) a week or so. :cry:

[Scott]

Thats the problem coach, I didn't see them in the Park just where they had been. I did find them on Private property that adjoins the Park but the same thing applies. It is up to the land holder to say yes we will prosecute or not. If it was to go to court I will be there with bells on. If not NOTHING, they get away with it. I have spoken to one of the land holders a couple of times and it is not looking good for a court session. The owner would much rather just let it go with a warning to the offenders.
As most of the time this happens. I am feeling very let down by the whole thing at the moment. We certainly need harsher penalties in this country, and a lot more of these poachers need to be made examples of....scott

[HOOD]

What ever happened to "waste not want not"??????? PRICKS

Hood 8)

[jindydiver]

What ever happened to "waste not want not"??????? PRICKS

Hood 8)

Too right hood
When the law is no deterrent then ethics are non existent
:roll:

[adam]

Yeah slap on the rist and there back at it. Works both ways though when they go to the cops about you burning there truck to the ground. Slap and away you go. Pricks, Better then the head mounted on the wall is that lean sweat venison kilos and kilos of it. Sorry to here this mate's. Adam

[Scott]

Well its happened again fella's. Went for a quick look at a good spot this morning, just to see what was about. 2 dead doe's, just shot and left :twisted: This is really getting out of hand and really getting up my nose!

[Bowmancam]

How are they getting onto the property? Is there no locked gate? also have a word to the property owners whose land joins the property you hunt. We had a problem a few years back with doggers on my favourite property. It turns out a neighbouring property had given them permission to hunt but failed to properly define boundary lines. We told the owner they were on the wrong block and he relayed the info to the doggers and they were never seen again.
Perhaps this may be true in your circumstance.

If u could only catch the bastards red handed and get the cops there to nab them.... yeah, that'll be the day :roll:

Cheers, Cam

[Skip]

Maybe need to send a couple of not so subtle messages :wink: (Not really, nice to think about though).

[Scott]

Cam, different property than the 1 mentioned earlier. Yeh there is locked gates but that don't stop'm fence jumpin. Mate by the time the cops got out there they would be long gone. Heading out again for another look in the morn, so we will see!

[HOOD]

Scott pack a couple of blunts just incase :wink:

Hood 8)