Buff with bow

[PHANTOM]

Has anyone got any buffalo pics that show you where to shoot it with an arrow?
I«ÉŸm thinking of shooting one but thought it would be best to ask as I don«ÉŸt want to wound one.

Any other info would be great too

[ricochet]

Contact ds on this site ,i think he has taken buffs before,he should be able to help you

Rick

[ds]

Hey, I don't know if I can be of much help.
But for what its worth, if you do get the opportunity be aware that their lungs are somewhat high and IMO only take high percentage shots. Stay away from the forequarter and shoot the heaviest bow/arrow combination that your ability allows.
This is where i'd like my arrow to gohttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/dstoj1/Resizeofbroadside_bull_1995.jpg
My brother Tony with a bull, one arrow passthrough, broadside shot. Animal travelled less than 100 metres and expired in mid stride.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/dstoj1/Image-67.jpg

Hope this is of some help and good luck..ds

[ricochet]

Great info there ds, top job ,knew you were the man :lol: :lol:

Rick

[PHANTOM]

ds
Thanks for the pics they are very helpful
What arrow did your brother use?
Any suggestions on what arrows I could use,
I shoot a compound bow at 70 lb

[Glenn]

Good photos there ds...Glenn...

[Sparra]

Great shots there DS...You must be a very brave man to get in that close to paint that white spot on him like that :D :D

[Skip]

Has anyone got any buffalo pics that show you where to shoot it with an arrow?
I«ÉŸm thinking of shooting one but thought it would be best to ask as I don«ÉŸt want to wound one.

Any other info would be great too

The latest Archery Action magazine has a pretty good article about this. They carried out some extensive testing and anatomical post mortem studies and answered your very question.

[ds]

Any suggestions on what arrows I could use, I shoot a compound bow at 70 lb
I imagine such a poundage would have claimed many a buff. As for arrows there are other factors which determine a suitable shaft such as point weight, arrow length, cam type ect..and most importantly how well a particular arrow flies. Shoot the heaviest arrow your combination allows.

Though Tony got a pass through that certainly has not been the norm, for us any hows. He used 2315's @ 550 odd grains and harvested his bulls cleanly. Though I would prefer a heavier arrow as things don't always go to plan :wink:

Here's another one arrow kill with 2419's @ 615 grns/80# beast traveled 50 odd metres and again died in mid stride. I would like to try a heavier arrow than this if only for comparisons sake.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/dstoj1/Resizeofbuffarrow_2003.jpg


The latest Archery Action magazine has a pretty good article about this. They carried out some extensive testing and anatomical post mortem studies and answered your very question.
I agree Ed Ashby articles are a valuable resource.

Safe hunting..ds

[ricochet]

Just goes to show aye coach, :lol:


According to the ABA targets that would be a "C" , ds

[ricochet]

Agree Coach, as ds and his brother have the game on the ground then i would take their shot placement,when i was in NZ last year shooting at the NZBHS shoot,same thing was said several times by other shooters that the scoring zones were not true,what counted as a 10 or 20, was not in the kill zone,some of the very very good bowshot hunters over there were getting lower scores than say the target archer ( for a better word),who knew the scoring zones, as the hunters were aiming for their known kill zones.So I think i will take the zones that ds has placed here as correct,as they have the proof on the ground

[ricochet]

I must ad further to my post coach,the bow shooters at the NZBHS shoot were not interested in high scores just having fun and meeting old friends,so it was no big deal to them to hit the different zone.

Rick

[Glenn]

You will never learn porper shot placement by shooting ABA targets. This was pointed out more than 25 years ago...Glenn...

[PHANTOM]

You will never learn porper shot placement by shooting ABA targets. This was pointed out more than 25 years ago...Glenn...

i agree

[Spider]

Any chance of starting a new thread with everyones prefered shot placement for different game on it for us newbee's. Last thing I want to do is go out wound and loose an animal....Scott

[HOOD]

Maybe some of the more experienced hunters here can put picks up of the dif game like the buff with ideal kill zone on the pic.

Hood 8)

[Sparra]

I get it now...a domestic buff that lets anyone draw on it!!!!!

[takleberry]

we got one here in the NT he's in Adelaide River pub he's charlie from the dundee movie he's stuffed and standing on the bar you can stand right there and see where you want to stick that arrow :lol: :lol:

great set of horns as well
I'll try to remember to take a pic next time I past through

Tac

[jindydiver]

On pigs and goats I have always aimed for a spot just above the elbow joint and it has proven to be spot on many times. I have never shot a buffalo but based on the anatomy drawings I have seen it would suffice for them also. The ABA spot on that buff' is just a little forward of the spot I aim for and is a lot closer than the big spot.
I have always subscribed to the "aim small hit small" school of thought and that big dot is like 1/3 the depth of the animal and any shot landing just outside of it to the back is going to be pretty iffy.
I think if I was to ever get a chance at a buffalo I would aim for that little gap right between those two dots.

[ds]

On pigs and goats I have always aimed for a spot just above the elbow joint and it has proven to be spot on many times. I have never shot a buffalo but based on the anatomy drawings I have seen it would suffice for them also. The ABA spot on that buff' is just a little forward of the spot I aim for and is a lot closer than the big spot.
I have always subscribed to the "aim small hit small" school of thought and that big dot is like 1/3 the depth of the animal and any shot landing just outside of it to the back is going to be pretty iffy.
I think if I was to ever get a chance at a buffalo I would aim for that little gap right between those two dots.



Hey,
I agree the spot you have mentioned would kill a buffalo, no argument there. Though if your arrow were to come in contact with the forequarter it would be game over, the position of the front leg is critical. Shots that you may have resurrected with some luck on smaller game are less likely to fall in your favor on bovine. I have found it«ÉŸs safer to aim high/back and if a quartering away shot is possible all the better- IMO.
As for «É⁄aim small shoot small«ÉŸ well I thought that went without saying, though things don«ÉŸt always go to plan.
The circle was never intended as the exact target to aim for, rather a generally safe area of where to aim based on our limited experience«É∂ds

[jindydiver]

As for «É⁄aim small shoot small«ÉŸ well I thought that went without saying, though things don«ÉŸt always go to plan.


DS
I have no doubt that what you say is true. I shot a goat once from less than 5 metres and the arrow hit the elbow joint, suffice to say there wasn«ÉŸt a great deal of penetration and lucky for me the goat wasn«ÉŸt able to run with it«ÉŸs leg pinned to it«ÉŸs side. Another quick shot and he was mine. If the same thing happened with a buff«ÉŸ I would probably be worm food about 5 second later. :roll: No matter what game you intend to shoot you need to go with the percentages when picking the kill zone.

[hunting_mainiac]

with the first buff pic where ds highlighted the killzone . [well i shot a buff in that spot , penetration was up to the fletching ect.] but it was not to be , no blood trail or anything.

do they bleed internally with this shot not splirt it out ?

[ds]

HM,
What was position of the animal when the shot was taken? Sounds like a gut shot, arrow buried up to the fletches and no beast at your feet.
Not good to hear.
As you can see from my bros pic lung blood is clearly visible, where as on the other pic little blood was visible at the wound though the beast emptied plenty from his nasal.
Every beast I have seen shot in this location has cleanly expired, but hey there are always exceptions. The animal«ÉŸs position is of utmost importance, the shot is best served quartering away I believe..ds

[hunting_mainiac]

it was standing side on facing to my left , the shot was into the killzone you have marked on the buffalo in the pic . i just cudnt figure out why it didnt go down.

[ds]

YOU can stick it where ever you like coach :wink: :P :P :P :P