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Zeeke
04-02-06, 10:37 PM
Hi There, my names Tim.. most call me wookie.. but for some reason i use the nickname Zeeke on forums (fishing, photography and now this)

im 24.. and been interested in Archery since i was 11.. folks bought me a cheap and nasty fibreglass recurve bow which i used a fair bit.. and then a year later, a slightly better recurve bow.. unfortunately i was only party serious about it back then and couldnt afford to go somewhere decent with equipment.. .. but lately ive been thinking about getting back into it, i do alot of lure and flyfishing and am pretty keen on photography, and with that i spend alot of time camping and 4wding in some pretty rough scrub with one trip finding myself opening my tent to seeing 15 pigs and piglettes only 5-10 meters away in the 50 to 80kg bracket.. and damn they looked good.. almost felt like going after one with a knife and dropping one then.. but not with a few bigguns there.

Anyways.. i just bought a cheap and nasty compound bow in the 55lb range.. Ill upgrade in the future.. asking as i can drop a pig or 2 cleanly in the process and im wondering, when i go on my fishing/camping trips.. what are the rules on bows in a national park, im heading to a location in central queensland, the pigs are there in plague proportions.. and nearest town is 80kms away.. do you think it would be wise to take the bow?? a few ex pro shooting mates said i should.. and they said just pack a fishing arrow in and say im doing a bit of bowfishing (spearfishing is legal in the area) but id still like your opinions..

Cheers and look forward to many more posts in the future!

Tim

Luke
04-02-06, 10:42 PM
Tell your "mates" they should check the laws.

Discussion of illegal activities is not permitted and will not be tolerated on this forum.

Don't discuss it, don't do it.

You'll do more harm for bowhunting and our right to do it than good if you do.

Luke

Apart from that, to reiterate my PM...welcome aboard.

Luke
04-02-06, 10:44 PM
Where abouts in CQ are you talking about? I used to live up there and could set you up with some responsible bowhunters who might take you out for a hunt...not ones who'll recommend you just break the law and go to a national park :evil:

What kind of mates would do that...besides even HAVING a bow in a national park is illegal regardless of wether or not you're using it to shoot ferals or what have you...

Luke

Zeeke
04-02-06, 10:49 PM
Spose you know now why I asked, Im not keen on stuffing it up for others.. and know its safer to go hunting with mates on there property

Location is Curtis Island.. very piggy.. last time i was there we watched 17 pigs on the sandflats digging up crabs and turtle nests on lowtide..

Tim

woody
04-02-06, 10:58 PM
Zeeke,
Please remember this is a PUBLIC forum. I would suggest you choose a different hunting area :D

Zeeke
04-02-06, 11:09 PM
Yeah Woody, im sorry for teasing... pigs like that on a sandflat would be good looking for alot of you guys!

But as you can see, id like to know the laws before i do anything stupid, i dont want to cause trouble, ive seen the troubles fisherman go through just trying to catch a fish.. its pretty much exactly the same as hunting.. laws and regs... and then the tree huggers who wont learn about the sport in any way shape or form and just call it barbaric and sick.

Tim

jindydiver
05-02-06, 08:19 AM
Welcome to the forums Zeeke


I don’t know how you define “mates”, but those guys that would suggest you take your bow into the National park and have at it fall well outside what I would call mates.

If you take your bow into the park you will be breaking the law if you have even ONE broadhead tipped arrow with you, whether or not you take your fish arrow and try to convince the ranger you are spearing. It is called “possessing an implement” and the fine is enough to put a real downer on your holiday. An understanding ranger might see it your way, but it would be a big gamble that YOU are taking, and it is fine for your “mates” to suggest it, they wont be gambling their good name or their money.

You could do yourself a little research and see if there are any parcels of private land (or better crown land) that adjoin the area you want to hunt. Then you can just go visit the owners and ask if you can hunt their pigs. If there are as many as you tell us the farmer will be glad to be rid of a few.

Trophy Bowhunts
05-02-06, 08:34 AM
Zeeke

Just in relation to Bowfishng:

In Queensland Bowfishing is covered by the Spearfishing Laws which in turn relate to fishing Laws.

If where you are going is a National Park which is bordered by the ocean, there maybe a conflict of interest between these 2 areas. One you should not have a Bow in a National Park (In Qld) and 2 it is ok to bowfish if Spearfishing is allowed. I would check with the Rangers in that area and if none I would then check with National Parks and get a ruling. If they say it is OK then get it in writing and have that with you just in case.

Welcome to the site and please ask as many questions as possible I am sure there will be plenty of information passed on to you when you ask.

Mick

Zeeke
05-02-06, 09:12 AM
Thank you for the comments guys.. im glad im able to find out some real truth here then listening to "mates"

From what ive just read and found out.. the area where im going is national park and the rest of the island is private cattle propertys and such.. so i probably wont take the bow and save it for a trip with some friends out west on there property

Thanks again and look forward to future posts here!

Tim

XTfreak
05-02-06, 09:16 AM
Zeeke, Welcome to the site.
Welcome to the site and please ask as many questions as possible I am sure there will be plenty of information passed on to you when you ask. And it may keep ya from gettin into unwanted trouble.
Bill

jay
05-02-06, 02:08 PM
Welcome Zeeke, A Compound bow with approx 55Lbs should easly kill anything from rabbits to smaller sized deer, perhaps even the larger ones, just keep in mind that when shooting any game animals that you use ' broadheads ' any razor sharp type should do and if its placed correctly on the animal should definatly kill it without much pain if any at all. the heavier the arrow the deeper the penetration and more force it goes in with.Ive read that the People who shoot larger poundage bows with heaver arrows are no diffrent off than someone who shoots a lighter poundage bow with lighter arrows, its a matter of ' How far the arrow will go into the ground once it 'passes through' the animal. ( so ive read ) I was reffered to this page by a member and its proved very usefull to me, i would also reccomend it to you.
http://www.huntersfriend.com/bowselection.htm#drawweightrec

Zeeke
05-02-06, 02:58 PM
Thanks for the Information Jay, looks to be very helpful...and top bit of advice!

aussiehunter
05-02-06, 03:56 PM
i agree with coach u need to be comfortable with what u r shooting..heres some more good info,a bit long ,but its good info good read for u jay and zeeke..good luck and welcome...cheers pat :D

http://www.datakey.com.au/steve1/Momentum.pdf

Zeeke
05-02-06, 04:09 PM
thanks for the welcome Aussiehunter, ive seen some of your videos on the Hunting Footage website and i must say, im very impressed...

Tim
p.s. thanks for the info

aussiehunter
05-02-06, 04:30 PM
tim,im only an amateur..hav a look at one of brad smith latest "ferel game"" some great footage there,some of it from up here..cheers pat :D

Zeeke
05-02-06, 05:26 PM
Good stuff, where abouts can i see those videos??

Tim
p.s. for an amateur your doing good ehehe.. look forward to your work when you get that headcam ive seen you mention

aussiehunter
05-02-06, 05:30 PM
email brad $ 40.00 inc postage

twoblade@optusnet.com.au

do u buy any of the bowhunting mags,"bowhunting down under "is a forum sponsor,ull find links on here.lots of good info etc on there as well...

cheers pat :D

Zeeke
05-02-06, 05:41 PM
When i can afford it i do.. but thats not very often unfortunately

(Fishing and Photography are expensive hobbies)

Tim

chris
05-02-06, 07:24 PM
so is bowhunting and living.

Chris

Zeeke
05-02-06, 08:29 PM
Guess im buggered then..

Oh well.. more things to spend money on :lol:

Tim

jay
05-02-06, 10:59 PM
Ive read that the People who shoot larger poundage bows with heaver arrows are no diffrent off than someone who shoots a lighter poundage bow with lighter arrows,
Sorry guys but that is a load of POO! Light arrows and light poundage will NOT be as good as heavy arrows and heavy poundage . In saying that , you also need to be able to shoot the bow comfortably and accurately :wink:

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