best broadhead

[hunting_mainiac]

place your opinion for the best head and reason for it being ur choice :)

[hunting_mainiac]

in my opinion tusker / ribtek are too soft and bend easily on game.
i have yet to try woodys , but have heard very good things about them. :D :D :D

[jindydiver]

I voted woodies.

I haven't used Blackstumps and davies heads need inserts as do ribteks, and when I put in inserts I can never get the mongrels to spin true. I have never had a head from woodie that didn't spin true and they are as tough as they come.

[humphrey]

i cant say ive tried too many different broadheads. i was using some american expandables which were meant to handle heavy game. they certainly flew like field points but fell apart when i hit a fox with them, so i was defiantely not going to use them again.

i now use redzone vented two blade. they are the same broadhead as the fred bear razorheads which have apparently taken more american big game than any other broadhead in history. not a bad reputation.

[woody]

http://www.tradgang.com/ashby/

This is a pretty good read about broadheads. Re the Bear heads, I reckon they have a long way to go before they catch up with knapped flint heads :D

[Bowmancam]

I use Tusker javelins as i find they are easy to get shaving sharp, easier than ribteks and blacksumps and i've never bent one on game, i've never tried woody's. I too have a problem with consistency as far as spinning goes with the inserts so i think i'll be giving woody's heads a go when he returns from his holiday or see if i can order some through Kimall.


Cheers Cam

[Warlocke]

I was using expandable b/heads and liked them.

After using Woodies heads I dont think I will use any other.

Tough, hold an edge and fly true out of the bag.

The Ribteks are hard to spin, need an adapter for carbons and the weight is too heavy for my setup.

I find the Tuskers and Blackstumps need setting up as well and don't fly as true as the Outbacks.

[humphrey]

ah, the bear SUPER razorheads got a bit of a bagging in that test, but he reckons the original razorheads (same as redzone) performed quite well.
:D :wink:
i read an article about the stone heads (flint knapping?). i doubt theyd group very well or be tough enough. any one had shots/hunted with them before?

[Carl_SlayR]

I think Woody was talking about the amount of game taken. I would imagine more game would have been taken with knapped heads also, rather than bear broadheads.

[humphrey]

right you are carl. now i get it. humphrey is a little slow to catch on! :wink:

[adam]

I think all the Ozzie made heads are great and are a good price to boot.

[adam]

:wink: Awesome heads The Best I have shot and yet the cheapest in its range. You all Know I can't say enought about them.

[pete w]

Woody is making some very good heads as well as John's Tuskers.
These Ausie heads are a great bargin!!!!!!!!!
I get to test a lot of heads and The outbacks and Tuskers are the best deals anywhere.They are more than adequate for any game and with the prices they are afordable enough to practice with.
These are not Silver Flames, but for the price I can get 2 dozen Tuskers for the price of 3 Flames.

I hope that you shooters down under support your local businesses.They will only get better with more sales.
I just ordered some of woody's 160 gr supremes from www.Herbsarchery.com for my wifes recurve. and some spirits and javelines for my wood shafts.

On Carbon shafts with 100 gr Brass inserts and 100 gr steel adapters the Tusker Aztec's fly perfectly and hit with authority.
The same setup with spirits is also a great flyer that will be good on the low poundage bows.
Woody's 130 gr supremes also fly beautifly with the carbons and the brass inserts.These will be good for deep penetratino at low draw weights.The 160 gr should be even better.

[HOOD]

Well it's all been said already about the glue in adaptors so I won't bother.

Gotta love the Outbacks I use the Hunters 130grains. :P
And yes I'll support my local business before I go OS as long as they can deliver the goods which Woody does.

Hood 8)

[Thomas]

I do like the looks of the outbacks, good 51 rockwell, screw ins, good price!
Anyone tried the supreme?
What happens with that long "nose" if it hits tough bone?

To me it looks like some of the "Aussie" heads are too short.
I have found out that if the angle of the blade is too steep the blade dosent cut trough the animal, it looks like a mix of pushing and cutting when i dissect the animals interiors.
And in my opinion this leads to a longer run before the animal expires.
this due to two things.
1. the broadhead pushes some bloodvessels to the side instead of cutting them clean off witch leads to less bleeding=longer run.
2. The broadhead leaves more energy in the animal=the animal get moore of a punch and that leads them to run longer and faster.
Of course there are moore factors involved like if your bow is quiet, animal sees you, etc.

I was recently in Namibia and shot zebra, hartebeest and springbok.
Both zebra and hartebeest expired after aprox 75 meters.
Zebra run 6 meters, then stopped and walked the rest of the distance without never knowing what happened (heartshot)
Hartebeest run 15 meters and then walked in a slow pace, heart and both lungs..

Both where shot with silverflames, that is the sharpest broadheads i have ever encounterd. 56-57 rockwell hard blades that is still shaving sharp after passing though ribs.
yeah i know there not cheap, but dont only count the price 106 euros for six heads. They last for moore than one animal, if you shoot five animals per head they will cost you 5.53 australian money per head.
Now dont get me wrong, i am not saying aussie heads is no good, i cant say because i havent tryed them.
What i am saying is thet the Silverflames are the most effective heads i have ever encountered. They are :evil:

Thomas
Sweden

[hunting_mainiac]

the cheap heads in australia , u can use them over and over , they also hold a good edge (most of them) .
i have shot through both shoulders of a decent hog and the davies head came out unharmed and still shaving sharp.

if i was going to hunt the animal of a lifetime i would save my money and still use the australian heads :D :D :D

[Thomas]

Ok Coach.
Your daddy is stronger than mine.
Congratulations :)

Thomas

[woody]

Thomas,
The Silver Flames are very high quality heads, and I can see why you like them. If I was going on the hunt of a lifetime, in Africa or North America, where the cost of my broadhead was a tiny fraction of total cost,..... I can see your point of view. :D

My choice, for African size game, would be a 145 grain Outback Supreme, 3:1 style, and pretty strong, and I get a good discount from the manufacturer .... :D

[HOOD]

and I get a good discount from the manufacturer .... Very Happy
ROFLMAO
Good one mate.
That reminds me I'm gonna need to get a couple doz soon for the group comp in October.

Hood 8)

[Thomas]

Hi Woody.
I guess you are involved in some way of the making of the supreme ?
Is that right?

Thomas

[HOOD]

Hi Woody.
I guess you are involved in some way of the making of the supreme ?
Is that right?

Thomas

Thomas, Involved in some way yeah you could say that........Woody is THE MAN behind the head. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hood 8)

[woody]

Morton,
You've tried Outbacks then? :D

[humphrey]

ive tried quite a few different broadheads including overpriced yankee heads, and only recently got some of woody's supremes. i must say that i am extremely impressed. :D
i havent taken any game with them yet, but the toughness and accuracy of them is amazing! everyone told me they group with the field points, so i scoped my crossbow to hit the bullseye with 125g field points. i then took a few arrows with the broadheads and shooting of a bench rest, i sliced the vanes of the field point arrows at 30 metres. :lol:
and at $3 a head, why the hell would i wanna shoot anything else? :shock:
lets hope i can stick one in a big sambar this year.

[Axe]

:oops:

[Axe]

Morton, to all of what you said, you certainly have a right to your opinion, & I respect your right, but as far as your post re this subject, I gotta say, "what a lot of crap" :roll:

[jindydiver]

the little 100 gr muzzy 4 bladers only have a 1 inch cutting dia.
but in fact they cut a hole that has 4 times the area of a single blade cut.


Interesting maths there bloke. :roll:

[valhalla]

Sorry but i only use Ribtek Broadheads and havent had a problem with them and i use adaptors.i agree that the tip on the Ribtek may bend if a rock is hit but ive only ever had the very end fold over i just grind it of and resharpen.but saying that im always up to try new Heads so i think i might give the Outbacks a try and see how they perform. :) :)

[Bowmancam]

Lucky Morton. Has 1 post, hangs crap on Aussie b/heads, then wins photo of the month :roll:

Atleast he gets to try some of woody's heads ...


Cheers, Cam

[jindydiver]

:D OK THEN

time to answer some critics

firstly lets talk about cutting area.
and we will use a 31mm cut single blade (area lenght x bredth)
lenght 31mm width maybe 4mm (thats being generous as there is really no width but the wound will open up ) ..=124 square mm
a 25mm 4blade muzzy has 625 mm square plus opening up some maybe 5% so lets say 650sq mm.

there you have it.


There we have nothing but more bad math and wild ideas.

Your calculations would make a lot of sense if the head was cutting out a square from the animal, but it is not. It is making a cut, and the width of the item making the cut makes no diffÃ* whatsoever.

By your reasoning a slash made with a razor wouldnÃ*t be any problem compared to a slash made with a cleaver, although they could be the exact same depth and length.

A 31mm wide single blade head makes one 31mm (or there abouts) cut through the length of its travel. A 31mm wide two bladed head makes 2 of those same cuts. The best you can claim is twice the wound, not 4.
Your calculations make out a two bladed head is punching a hole through an animal that is 25mm on all four sides, which is pure rubbish.

And your logic is all to **** also.

Even if we were to accept your assertion that a single blade head that is 31 mm by 3mm cuts a hole with an area of 91 square mm (which is rubbish) then a 2 bladed head could only cut 2 times that 91 square mm hole, making your wound 182 square mmÃ*s. the very idea is all crap of course so your math doesnÃ*t even have to make sense, hey.

I would think that all bow hunters would realise that the wound is a cut that is the width of the cutting edges multiplied by the length that the head cuts through the animal. With a single bladed head with a width of cutting edge of 25mm and having travelled clean through an animal creating a wound letÃ*s say 400mm long you get one 25 mm wound. If the head has 2 time 25mm blades (and assuming it also travels through the animal) you just have two 25mm wounds.

In the end what matters most is the amount of blood vessels cut by the blades and the resultant loss of blood, not some theory about how a wider blade is making a wider cut.

[mcsteve]

i use bonebreakers,localy made ,work fine for me

[jindydiver]

I STILL WIN



It is a competition bloke :roll:
And there is no need to yell, cogent argument would get your point across much better. :wink:

[adam]

Morty I know you wouldn't use anything but what you had found best, and what ever you are using is working fine. this whole 2 blade 4blade 6blade debate has been going since mutli blade heads were first brought out.

You found out yourself what broadhead suits you best as you go through hunting. I have no dout morty's set up and choice of broadheads is a good one. I have used most types of broadheads to date, exy and cheap from expanables 6 blade - 3 blades and most aussie 2 blades. The best head I have yet encountered is the 2 blade Outback. Through my experience I have found them the toughest and thats what I like in a broadhead. But thats just my choice for a head and it works for me. A lot of guys are using mech heads these days with good results. I was thinking of going to a 3 blade cut on impact head for deer, and after seeing some good results from other hunters using these heads I still might.

Then again the compound is packed away untill after next rut and roar so Ill have to find a good 2blade for timber shafts, going all out trad till I bag a deer :wink:

Lets eze up on the bad publicity (wounded) guys, remember this is a public forum.

Adam

[woody]

Mark,
It would be a dull world if we all had the same likes and dislikes, if the broadheads you choose to use, work well for you, there really is not much more to say. Enjoy your venison, a real nice stag.
Good hunting,
Woody.

[takleberry]

What hasn't been mentioned is the resistance to cut difference between a three blade and a two blade just by adding a third blade the resistance goes up and more energy is required to push it through.

Tac

[Warlocke]

I have used mechanical heads, multi-blade heads and two sided.

The best by far, mainly because of the accuracy, are the Outback Supremes.

The main ingredient for a clean kill is always shot placement, and I have never shot a more consistantly accurate B/Head than the Supremes.

My main gripe with these heads is the arrows I lose.

The arrow exits the animal and keeps going like it hasn't encountered any resistance.

Still lots of blood to trail and I have never had to trail an animal more than 50 meters.

[macka]

I use Mechanical blade gold tip gladiator heads. 100gn. I used to have trouble with them penetrating but with my new bow I am getting passthroughs from 30m. I ordered a heap of these in bulk but when I run out I and going to use some woodies because they fly true but I havenÃ*t used them on game yet. The gold tips leave a huge hole and expire them very quick. Here are some pics.
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0WQCJAoEbjMVA0OdQh*9c5BZDtwcV3*VOBb3YK8braiSDYXRXx gWWCa88iAjGjjZFxCVggTEqJ938VCbwWEttwPdAsZrZ6vJqWjZ 1ZBrEAzQIlfD6pvciKDNFjGlJpf62u1zrZOegmdA/P1010316.JPG

[HOOD]

Maca I have used the goldtips and found that after a while they were having trouble opening up casue stuff got stuck betwen the body and the blades which stopped tehm from opening up properly, but they did fly like field points.

Hood 8)

[bowriver]

What was the second pic?

[Sc(+)pE]

I wanto to see the second pic too :(

[adam]

I dont, glad I missed it :wink:

[bowriver]

Its abit like saying "i have a secret, but i cant tell you what it is". I'm just curious why it was so bad.

[barebow]

I voted for Woody's as I only got my hands on a dozen last week.Took them for a walk on Saturday arvo and arrowed two rabbits.Very happy with the idea of just straight screw in,no more glue and trying to get the arrow to spin true and so easy to sharpen.

Have used ribteks for ages now but biggest problem was having to glue the insert and getting them to spin true.Have used the bear clone and like them except for the cost.Be different if cash wasn't so scarce. :wink:

[macka]

The seccond pic was just a goat with an exit wound from a double lung shot from 30m there was a bit of blood.. the gold tips make a huge exit wound.

Macka

[jason]

go try and stick them through a big old muddy boar macka. Been there seen it out of my mates 75# compound and all he got was minimal penetration twice and 2 angry boars and we got to do some side stepping. Goats are very soft skinned and light boned and those broadheads are good on them. Both pigs were dispatched with good aussie single bladers. The gold tips seemed to explode going through the fighting pad and mud. Do not take offence this is my experience with them on big pigs.

[macka]

Nah no offencetaken i wouldnt use them in pigs ither. But for deer and goats they work a treat.

Macka

[valhalla]

Hey you guys seen the test the yanks did on Wasp 3 blade heads, they shoot an arrow through 10 steele plates the eqivalent of 5/16- they were the sides off 55 Gallon drums the Head stayed completely intact and with total penetration very impressive...... :shock:

[jason]

we have done the same test a few years ago using a 44 but one of the old thicker steel ones. The results were that all the aussie heads available at the time(ribtek,blackstump, davies) penetrated with no damage. But the multiblades we tested did not except 1. They were deadheads, thunderheads etc the only 1 that came out with good penetration and no damage was a head easton brought out the ACE heads. The little 4 bladers they seemed to be a good head my mate shot a lot of game with them. after seeing woody heads shot into a brick i think a 44 would not stop them. You may ask why we did this test and the only reason was that we were stuck after a record rain fall and waiting for a lift into town to get a bus. the 4wd was stuck there for 8 weeks before it could be retrieved so we had a bit of time on our hands and a 44 galon drum.

[HOOD]

i think it was Kimall and Baz that shot woody's heads through a old steel truck door with no damage to the head.

Hood 8)

[HOOD]

Nice trophy class brick there Jeff must have been a mongral to stalk. :lol: :lol: :wink:

But yes that goes to show you how tuff Woody's heads are.

Hood 8)

[morton]

:D
hey i never said they weren't tough.

[valhalla]

How many bricks do ya hunt Coach :shock: im happy to break bone if possible :) there not quite as hard as brick :wink:

[Bowmancam]

The worse thing is he takes a few home to eat!!!

Now thats utilising a kill ;)

[valhalla]

:shock: :P :P

[valhalla]

How did ya measure that....

[jindydiver]

Did you use the carp recipe for your brick....
You know the one where you biol the brick with the carp and the herbs and spices then pif the carp? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[jindydiver]

Are you going to be having a go at a buff' with them? I sure hope if you do, that isn't the time they let you down.

[HOOD]

I have some of these heads coming from Germany shortly. The guy that I get most of my work from was just over there and found the supplier. But he couldn't email me for some reason so could not find out what size I wanted, so his friend who is coming to Oz in the next few weeks is gonna bring them for me. :P

http://www.german-kinetics.com/html/english.html

Hood 8)

[adam]

http://www.perfectbowkill.com/

or talk to duggaboy on archerytalk mate, he will give you a run down on size and prices.

http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=190906&highlight=german+broadhead

[HOOD]

Thanks for the links Adam, I already know what size I want and they are on their way.

Hood 8)

[PeterM]

Hey!

NONE of the above!

See ya Pete.