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rinaldo
03-05-05, 05:57 PM
I have been hunting for only 2 years so this maybe the reason why "claiming game" seems to baffle me. Why do you need to claim? Is there a prize? Whats it about exactly? Please enlighten me :D
There has to be a reason to do anything. For some, it is a competition with themselves. Others like the challenge of being the "top of the pack". Personnaly I don't claim, score etc, I just simply enjoy the hunt and ridding the country of feral beasts.
We all need a goal to aspire to or attain. Without which, we would not enjoy it. You will not find a single person who does not do a sngle thing without a motivator.
I like to score and rate my trophy's as it gives me (and others) an idea of the size of the trophy you have taken and how it rates with other animals taken of the same species.
Maxy
I see it as a "my **** is bigger than your **** " competition! Is a really easy 33 DP boarthat walks up to you at 10m worth more than say a 25 DP boar that you had to stalk for hours?
Just my opinion
Here-here. Wel said. Couldn't have put it better myself.
Yea, but if you got a big one, wouldn't you want to show it off? :shock: :D
Have you got a big boar hanging out your collar? :o :wink:
I try to claim most game if it was something that i thought was hard one or the better than i have shot i claim it. I think it gives credit to the animal to record it in history. Sometimes i do not get round to sending in measurements but i try to always have it independantly scored so i know how it rated amongst game i have shot. I think it does a great injustice to an animal to just kill it take a photo and stick it in an album for your eyes only. Why not claim at least in 20 years your grandkids could go and look at what you had shot as it is on record. It does not matter if it is ABA or trophy takers. i am all for it and wish i had claimed more as a lot of photos were misplaced etc of game i took.
When Trophy Bowhunters of Australia and then ABA started it was a good way of keeping accurate records of how much feral game was being taken with the bow and arrow in Australia and the results surprised a lot of people and I am sure the award system in those days was to encourage bowhunters to record their game taken with the bow. These records were used to lobby the Goverment on our behalf and have been a big plus in our favour in the past. I think of late this has been lost on a lot of hunters and hunting associations and has led to the birth of the dreaded Trophy Hunter. I personally think that the clainimg of game has lost it's way or even it's uefullness over the years. Maybe it's time for the powers that be to sit down and revulate the claiming of game and the award system...Glenn...
the devils right hand man
09-05-05, 08:40 PM
at the aba title shoots and i have had the pleasure of veiwing the t t albums at albury years ago they are there you just have to ask
the devils right hand man
09-05-05, 09:07 PM
is sux a well spelt word :roll:
jindydiver
09-05-05, 09:15 PM
As far as I'm concernend the only people I want to know about my hunt are the ones that "experience " the hunt and not how big the "Trophy" was!
You want Trophies go join a Target club!
How would you like your life to be taken for the sake of some writing in a book ? Or for a bragging right?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I have been asked before "where are your pics of the deer you have shot?"
And my standard answer is "Do you have some pics of your supermarket freezer, or your local butcher shop?" :wink:
If people want to hunt for the "Trophy", whatever it may be, that is their right. But I don't think others should try to interpret my motivations through their own. :roll:
Nah mate its a STAG :roll: :wink:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~rfleifel/coach_stag.jpg
:wink:
ROFLMAO
Good one Reece.
Hood 8)
:lol: :lol: you ****head reece, I would like to score my animals just so that it gives me something to work towards beating, having said that the little spiker i shot is as good a trophy to me as a 250 point buck, he will always stay as a memory
PS he douglas scored 33 6/8 :lol:
I see it as a "my **** is bigger than your **** " competition! Is a really easy 33 DP boarthat walks up to you at 10m worth more than say a 25 DP boar that you had to stalk for hours?
Just my opinion
Yeah guess you could view it like that coach. Some may view it as a compatition between them and others, i score and rate my trophy's as a compatition with myself, to try and better what i already have, but just because i choose to rate an animal of large trophy size doesnt mean that it was the best and most exciting hunt i have had to take a trophy of that species, sometimes you just get lucky so why not take full oppurtunity.
I see trophy ratings as an interesting accurate record of the game that has been taken with the bow in Australia, so i woulkd encourage everyone to rate their trophies, to make it as accurate a record as possible.
Some blokes hunt for the expoerience of being in the bush, others the satisfaction of sitting down to a nice meal of game meat at the end of the day, others hunt so they can sit back and admire a nice trophy mount on the wall. Whatever the reason, its all good
Maxy
The campfires, the challenge of the stalk, and the rush just before the moment of truth, rating trophys is not a part of my hunt :D
rinaldo
10-05-05, 05:59 PM
The campfires, the challenge of the stalk, and the rush just before the moment of truth, rating trophys is not a part of my hunt
Well said, there is enough hollow competition in the world today when I'm in the scrub all I want to do is enjoy is the moment.
tracker
10-05-05, 07:32 PM
there is enough hollow competition in the world today
Do you keep score when you shoot at targets?
Claiming game.........
Well why not claim game, l claim the lot! l enjoy recieving my 'head patches', single arrows chevrons, master and trophy bowhunter awards, deer cetifcates etc, etc. im proud to wear all the patches on my hard earned brag shirt, it has taken years to to it and im not finished yet. its an acheivement to me. l believe claiming game is a great idea and its slowing fading away in aba clubs (thats what l have noticed).
And all the patches look bloody great. :D
rinaldo
10-05-05, 08:52 PM
Do you keep score when you shoot at targets?
Yes I do, but I don't think you should confuse archery with hunting the same way that not all hunters are archers and visa versa.
Coach,
its fading away cos people/bowhunters have lost interest in it. people are not promoting the 'award system' any more. most people are to interested in beating their mates in an aba round and seeing who shot the most 20's..
rinaldo
10-05-05, 08:59 PM
its fading away cos people/bowhunters have lost interest in it. people are not promoting the 'award system' any more. most people are to interested in beating their mates in an aba round and seeing who shot the most 20's..
I also thing that its a sign of the times, 60 years ago no one had a problem with declaring that they hunted these days hunters are guarded about who they tell that they hunt. I think we should speak openly about hunting and defend what we do as well as educate the heathens.
Rin,
Definatly........... How do you promote bowhunting in 2005 when so many people are against US :?:
the devils right hand man
10-05-05, 09:06 PM
bodys like ada ssaa aba nswgc tt and all the others that i havent had a part of they are our voice
the poor old bowhunter is a dying species :(
the devils right hand man
10-05-05, 09:13 PM
were in 4 out of the 5 hoyty comin to tumut?
rinaldo
10-05-05, 09:14 PM
Definatly........... How do you promote bowhunting in 2005 when so many people are against US
By joining an organisation who actively promotes what we do( difficult to find). On a personal level I am very open about the fact that I hunt and I dont back away from a discussion. I approach it from an educational angle and then if the person still puts forward emotional argument I point there hipocrisy, most eat meat our wear some sort of leather.
No matter where I am I refuse to hide my light under a bushell. We need to build a bowhunting tradition in this country.
the devils right hand man
10-05-05, 09:17 PM
spot on rin
most of us who hunt, fish, shoot and what ever are already members of multiable organisations. we as members do promote what we do but if the average joe dosent have an already interest in the 'general hunting scene' they just turn their nose up in the air. we as hunters get decouraged by that and stop promoting altogether. there is only so much one person can do :!:
I don't hunt to claim game I hunt for a lot of other reason, I also beleave the trophy is with the beholder. However I usta claim my game animals and now TT has started back up I will start claiming again. I have my own reason for claiming game. I also hunt for the freezer.
Anyway hunters shouldn't be devided over such reasons to hunt and I say freezer hunter, trophy hunter or a bit of both its all good.
Adam
ricochet
11-05-05, 06:59 PM
I also thing that its a sign of the times, 60 years ago no one had a problem with declaring that they hunted these days hunters are guarded about who they tell that they hunt. I think we should speak openly about hunting and defend what we do as well as educate the heathens.
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Definatly........... How do you promote bowhunting in 2005 when so many people are against US
I really believe that there is not the people against us that we/others believe,a recent duck shooting survey (on the net) whether duck shooting should be banned,had over 3000 votes( ????) with 80% saying no.A recent shot show in Sydney had over 40,000 people attend,surely this must say we need to do more to publicise bowhunting/any hunting,and as Adam has said let people know that you hunt,and also fill the freezer with meat,I really believe we (as hunters) try to tread on light bulbs not wanting to break them, stuff trying to appease every one,SAY IT AS IT IS, we are hunters and bowhunters at that.
Sick and tired of all this political correction crap
Rick
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