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phil g
10-08-06, 04:15 PM
What species of deer has a white bum bordered by black also with a black tail? It is dark brownish/red colour & I didnt notice any spots on it. It is a young buck or stag (if there is a difference between the two when it comes to species :? ). I have never hunted deer or had anything to do with them but am very interested to know what type of deer it is before it turns into venison.

Warlocke
10-08-06, 04:35 PM
Sounds like Red Deer, mate.

phil g
10-08-06, 04:38 PM
Thats what I was thinking but like I said I haven't had anything to do with hunting deer before so I wasn't sure, does anyone know if they are living wild around the Bundaberg region or not?

Puk
10-08-06, 04:41 PM
Phil G,
I don't want to sound like a prat, but i think it is important to do as much research as we can on any of our target species before we consider turning them into venison or anything else. If we know what we are shooting we will also know if we are allowed to do so, the best target spot on the animal, etc, and will keep the sport out of trouble. :wink: It will also tell you what regions are habitated by which deer, etc, and show you some pics so you can identify your deer better.

put "deer species" into Google , look at sites from Australia, and i am sure you can become an expert in no time. After all, we need something to do when we can't be out hunting.

Forewarned is forearmed, etc. And it may give you some hints on their behaviour which will help your hunting anyway.

JMHO (hey Pat, i finally found a chance to use your signature phrase! :lol: )

Puk

Mozza
10-08-06, 05:13 PM
sounds like it might be a fallow to me
the whole black tail thing sounds like it, I havn't seen a red deer with a black tail.

adam
10-08-06, 05:50 PM
I'd say fallow.

These guys can have the same markings minus the spots.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/bowhunting/P1000400.jpg

adam
10-08-06, 06:01 PM
Another fallow picture from the rear.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/bowhunting/P1000364.jpg

or was it more like this, red deer
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/bowhunting/DSCF0795.jpg

Adam

macka
10-08-06, 09:18 PM
how is that supposed to help adam, i cant draw my eyes away from those antlers!

JK, couldnt have been more helpful if you tried. Some fallow are a fawn to red colour.. i have shot a couple like it with a rifle and they diddnt have any spots. I have a pic somwhere but yea.. just a thought

Macka

jpbon
10-08-06, 09:42 PM
they are some nice deer you got there adam. i love the look of fallows, there is just something about them.

JP

phil g
11-08-06, 06:16 PM
Thanks adam, most definatly a young fallow now that I have seen those pics. Does anyone know if they are supposed to be in the Bundaberg area in QLD? It is hanging around a few cattle that don't seem to want anything to do with it. I don't know of anyone in the area that keeps deer & it hasn't got a tag on it.

Was quite unbelievable to watch it when it tried to take on a full sized bull with big horns, the deer keeps going to the cattle while they are feeding but the cattle try to move away, except when it went up to 1 large horned bull who had its head down eating grass, the young buck with 1 small antler (the other has been snapped off), walked up 2 the bull head on & started ducking his head at the bull. The bull then headbutted the deer & nearly knocked it over, the deer then got back up for more & tried again before the bull gave him a harder headbutt then walked off, the deer just stood there then started ripping up some long grass with its antler, leaving grass hanging off the top of its head. I sat there watching the deer for about 3 hours that afternoon, have seen it a couple times since.

It is amazing to watch. I haven't heard of deer in this area before & I grew up here but have been told they sometimes can come down from the hills following the river.
So if anyone knows if fallow are known to be in this area it would be good to hear from you. Cheers, Phil.

Luke
12-08-06, 04:25 PM
Phil,
Deer are NOT local or "native" to the Bundy area :shock:

This finding of yours intrigues me greatly and I am amazed at your discovery! 8)

Have you ever seen any others with it or any signs of more in the area you're seeing it?

I don't know where they'd come down from along the river as they're not known to be in the areas inland of Bundy either so I am also intrigued as to how or why anyone would say this to you or get the idea from.

Luke :P

phil g
13-08-06, 07:25 AM
Im suprised it took you so long Luke, LOL. I know exactly what your saying, hence the deer is still bounding around, I actually had the chance yesterday to walk straight up to it within 30 meters which gave me the feeling it may be pre-domesticated. I didnt take my bow with me, I just wanted to see the deers reaction. It stood there watching me then basically trotted off.
Absolutly beautiful animal to watch so I think it would be completely wrong to take it, as I was walking up to it (even though I didn't have my bow) it didn't feel like a hunt what so ever, if I had have shot it, it would have been more of a killing than a hunt.
Even though this is the first deer I have come across in the wild, it was great to watch it in its wild nature & felt even better to be able to walk away without shooting it when it doesn't seem right.
I think it might become the local town mascot. All the kids know it is here now & think santa is coming aswell.
I would love the chance to hunt some of these deer but this 1 is safe as it wouldn't seem ethical or within my morals to take advantage of such an easy oppurtunity.
The deer lives. :)
Cheers, Phil.

adam
17-08-06, 06:44 PM
Fillg you'll surely get your chance at a true wild deer mate, they seem to be spreading faster then cane toads.

Adam

Luke
17-08-06, 07:20 PM
I wish Ad's ;)

:lol: