Picking the spot

Guys I thought you may be interested in this good graphic showing the frozen and exposed vitals of a deer. MRI style.

As a Guide a fallow and a Chital (full grown males) are about 15-16 inches from brisket to back line , and only a bit over 12 inches wide from shoulder to shoulder though this image doesn't give us a look at vitals from the side its a good indication of the position of vitals and the potential no kill areas.

Its a good picture for anyone thinking of sending an arrow to one to have a look at.

Notice where the spine sits in relation to everything else over the centre of the chest.

Photos like this are very helpful I think , of the vertical kill area you have available there is probably only 8-9 inches of sure kill, correction (Fast Kill)area and marginally more length wise. A bit like a foot ball on an angle.

You can see here how shots that appear low can be rapid killers where a higher shot may cause a wound or feed the crows and its possible to hit the spine and the top of a lung all in one.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/Steeley/deercrosssection.jpg

[granty]

top pic steely

[Kimall]

Bit blurrry mate. :P It is very interesting to see pics like this and even to talk about shot placement on 3d targets at the range for shots at differant angles.I have been pretty suprised at times with a group of 3 or 4 people you can get just as many answers about the best shot placement.
Cheers KIM

[Puk]

Hell it must have taken a broadhead with a wide cutting diameter to do that to a deer! :lol:

Just goes to show you. I have been thinking too high with all my imaginary shots on deer.

Puk

Puk :D :D :D LOL

Yes mate I told you guys those expandables were the bees neeze on Deer
this was the new NAP Model they call the windshield wiper :D

Nah its not a photo I took , its a loan from elsewhere.

[Marlin44]

Good pic - a big cavity of nothing. Gravity effects all that walk on 4 legs.
My mates thought I was "the crazy dude who liked to cut up animals". Little did they realise I was undertaking serious research for the future - that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :wink:

[interceptor]

That is pretty interesting Steely, have you got any others?

Cheers Noel

[ssga1]

Steely,

Must say that impresses me with the amount of muscle tissue above the backline (obviously to hold the neck/head up)!

Having a shot low would be far more effective that high and that the X spots on a lot of 3D targets not quite in the right spot :?

SSGA

[woodstoka]

if i was gonna take a shot on a deer i would want to hit it tight behund the front shoulder

[maxy]

Yeah, nice one steely.

Given the location of the spine on that shot and the fact that most deer drop when shot at means there is a better than average chance of going above the spine and into "no mans land' if the point of aim is anywhere near centre. I always try and hold about 1/3 the way up the body.

What species of deer is that? only because from my experience and from talking to others, i rekon that the spine on chital deer seems to sit a fair bit lower than say a fallow of the same body size, hence why a sitting shot at a chital is an extra risky shot.

maxy

[jason]

The first time i went to bill bakers and he had a full skeleton of a stag i thought i would never be able to hit one in the spot. That is a good piccy and i have found that on chital as maxy said a 1/3 the way up at max. My mate hit his stag litterally an inch higher than the brisket and near dropped it on the spot through the heart.

Most have seen this image but its a good look at where the sweet spots are. Our deer are a little different but only a little , fundamentally this how they are all put together.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/Steeley/anatomyanimation.gif