Carbons for longbows?????

[Arra Slinger]

I was just wondering what people thought of the goldtip "wood" lookalike carbon arras for a 54# longbow i thought they might be a tad to light so was thinking of puting some garden hose dripper tube up the guts to make the weight up.the only reason for me thinking of doing this is for the carbon durability with the wood look.What would the "coring" do to the spine of the arrow?(how much differance) just wanted some different opinions. any info would be GREAT

Thanxs Ben :)

[brian]

mate i reckon that there's no problems shooting carbons out of a longbow as long as they are heavy enough not to damage the bow (and shoot straight of course). if you stick somthin up the guts just make sure its a good fit so it doesnt slide around. adding this kind of weight wont affect static spine but will certainly change the dynamic spine. saying this tho i have found that carbons are the most forgiving arras you can get in terms of their spine characteristics but you should still bareshaft to get the best performance - especially for hunting. hope this helps

[Axe]

Mate, I shoot carbons in my LB as well as my recurves, got fly screen tubing up the guts, adds about 290grns to the weight. Shoot great :D If you bare shaft 'em after you add the stuff you should be laugh'n. You will find your arrows will be fairly weighty, which IMO is good for hunt'n, so if your ok about that go for it. :)

[Arra Slinger]

Brian and Axe thanx for the help
Im very new to the trad gear so dont mean to sound simple but when i bare shaft it the only adjustment is nocking point right? brace hight doesnt affect it or does it? and how much will it affect the spine(stuffing it)... will 35-55# arrows still be ok out of a 54# bow?

Thanks Ben.C :)

[Axe]

Mate if your saying, your arrow is flying nock right, & provided you are releasing smoothly & your arrows are clearing your shelf & you are right handed it indicates spine is too stiff. Try it with a heavier head if you can.

[Arra Slinger]

sorry Axe i ment right as in is that right :oops:
i ment is the only adjustment on a trad bow nocking point or does brace hight affect arrow flight as well
sorry mate i come from QLD :wink: :wink: :wink:

[adam]

Arra Slinger wrote
sorry mate i come from QLD
Poor deprived child

[Marcus26]

In my avatar I'm shooting a $60 X10 through a 75lb Longbow. ;) :D
Can't see why they would not work.
According to Easton a 28" 54lb Longbow only requires a 600 Spine arrow, which is pretty light.
I doubt your would need the coring if you use a heavy tip.

[Axe]

Lower brace height bit more speed, because it has alonger power stroke , but this increase in speed is only marginal. A higher brace height makes the bow more "forgiving" because the string is in contact with the arrow for a shorter time, but you should try & stay within the parameters of the manufacturers specifications either way.

If you're worried about your 35-55# arrows damaging your bow, as Marcus said just be sure you put a heavy enough head on 'em, but, if you put too heavy a head on you may weaken the spine. When you have decided what head to try weigh the arrow, IMO 8grns per pound of bow should be the minimum to protect your bow, more if you like, so... 54# bow x 8 = 432grn minimum, IMO be nice to get that up to around 500grn, (that's still not real heavy) but not necessary.

You said "Stuffing it", I gotta ask, you mean sticking the stuff up the guts? if so, you will find that carbons are pretty good & flexible in the sense they take a bit to chuck 'em out of whack. I have not had any probs with stick'n stuff up the guts so if your concerned, simple..... do it to one or two and try 'em, certainly won't hurt. Sometimes there is no easy, quick fix, and advice is just that, advice, so mate you may have to experiment somewhat to get what you want, with the gear you have.

As I said previous, I like a heavy albeit a "slower" arrow to hunt with, but many prefer a "faster" lighter arrow, mate that's a debate I don't want to get into, it's one that is as old as archery itself.

You got more QLD questions, :P :lol: :lol: we're here.

[Arra Slinger]

Axe your a bloody legend :D :D :D :D :wink:
"stuffing it" yer i ment puting stuff up the guts caus i too like the idea of heavier arrows out of the trad bow
Your a great help mate, thanx alot to all

Ben.C :D :D

[Axe]

Axe your a bloody legend :D :D :D :D :wink:
"stuffing it" yer i ment puting stuff up the guts caus i too like the idea of heavier arrows out of the trad bow
Your a great help mate, thanx alot to all

Ben.C :D :D



Jeez, does that mean I should be dead :?

Fellas is a rhetorical question, but I'm ready for the wits. Wonder what sort of wits they'll be :lol: :lol:

Pleased to be of help Arra :D

[HOOD]

Axe is that WITS or TWITS :lol: :lol:

Hood 8)

[pete w]

We have had some luck with stuffing the shafts but the best results to bring up carbon weight has been with the muzzy 100gr brass inserts.
A 6mm/243 85 or 100 gr bullet epoxied behind the insert also works very well.
If you stuff the shaft with hose etc you need to glue it in or it will push out the nock when the arrow hits a hard object.