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AdamK
16-07-07, 06:30 PM
In being given a leave pass by the wife, I grabbed the new Commander and the rest of my gear threw it all in the Lux and headed west to my hunting property.
On arrival at 9pm, I set up the broadhead target in the garage (20m range) and started shooting to ensure broadheads were shooting same as field tips. To my dismay, not only were the broadheads not at the same point of impact as the field tips, but they also refused to group. This was a surprise considering I have never had this issue before with Outback Supremes.

I put down many groups of 3 arrows on target, and no matter how well I thought I was shooting, no grouping could be achieved. I removed the broadheads and put on the field tips, and was relieved to see 25mm groups dead on target immediately. Back on went the broadheads, more shooting, no grouping....

By 11:30PM, I gave up. I had resigned to the fact that my 3.5hr drive to blood my new bow was not going to happen as I will not hunt with a bow that can't group with broadheads. Sitting at the kitchen bench with my broadheads and arrows in front of me I noticed a size difference between the broadheads! I then pulled out all my broadheads to realise I had 3 different weight broadheads across the dozen I had recieved from Archery Supplies....

I then seperated the heads according to size. I had 5 at the weight I had actually ordered. I went down to the range and shot a 3 shot group with arrows dead on target with a group of 30mm. To say I was releived is an understatement.

Moral is take nothing at face value. When you order a dozen broadheads, check you get what you order, as this may save you some time and frustration when preparing for a hunt.

(I got into 5m of a decent boar, no shot presented itself as he had his vitals behind a tree. In waiting for him to move, he winded me and bolted. That's hunting!)

spiderbait24
16-07-07, 06:42 PM
gees mate i think ill check mine right now!.

rory
16-07-07, 07:01 PM
Mate, before you go off and blame anyone (oopps, sorry you already have...) the Outback broadheads do vary in weight by a fair bit, even if they meant to be a certain weight. I have had a dozen 130 grain Supreme's, the heaviest being 136 grains, the lightest being 118 grains.....

I would also say however that Woody is doing a great job with his heads, and that he admits that there are times (like when the grinding machines wear down) that variations in weight do happen. His heads are cut and ground to shape, it's just how it goes. His heads are fine for all the game in Australia (if not the world ;) ) and for the price there are none better.

Puk
16-07-07, 07:04 PM
Buy them direct from Woody and you will never have a problem.
His customer service is second to none. You can find him on the sponsors page.
When i first started i didn't know whether to get supremes or hunters. He sent me two of each (in 2 different weights) to get an idea of what i wanted. When i ordered a dozen, he told me to keep the original 4. I was so impressed that i paid him for them anyway just to show my thanks.

He takes care of his clients.

Puk

Luke
16-07-07, 07:09 PM
A shame a "pro" in a proshop couldn't get it right though hey :o

Good thing you picked it up and got in on that boar anyway thought mate :D

Bummer you didn't bag him but. ;)

AdamK
16-07-07, 08:07 PM
To clarify, these were my second dozen outback supremes. The first dozen were great, and the results I was getting from the latest purchase once seperated into same weights were great too.

The weights across the dozen vary by 40 grains, and the result of that weight variation made a considerable difference in point of impact on target at 20m. Considerable enough to cause a miss of vitals at 20m, and ensure a miss of vitals at 30m+. Critical really.

I suspect Archery Supplies accidentally mixed up the broadheads, rather than Woodie getting such a variance across a batch. I will buy from Woody directly in future.

Sh1t happens. I can appreciate that. No dramas with Archery Supplies or Woody. My point on this is, trust no one, check everything yourself...

howie
16-07-07, 08:37 PM
AdamK, Did you come thru Bx without letting me know? shame shame shame!! How could you!! Howie

ado250
16-07-07, 09:17 PM
I agree with that sentiment. Always check and re-check no matter what. You learn that working with trades :rolleyes:. Even the best stuff up sometimes.

As Adam said, Archery Supplies are tops 98/100 times (I get a bit of gear from there) but it pays to be cautious nonetheless.

Ado